These reports remain unconfirmed at the time of writing, but they aren’t unreasonable since India has every reason to want to deprive its rival of this high-quality equipment after their latest clashes in spring, though so too does Russia have its own reasons for defying this request like the reports claim.
I wouldn't trust Western media in reporting Pak- Russia ties. They have repeatedly circulated fake news to destroy Indo- Russia ties; especially now that Putin is visiting India. Russia is unlikely to give Pak arms- Putin said so at the SCO summit. The fact that India has huge contracts on S 400 and SU 57 with Russia means it is unlikely these reports of arms sales are true. Industrial ties are possible of course.
Pakistan has been using these engines for over a decade, it's nothing new. The reports only claim that Russia refused to comply with India's request to stop exporting them to Pakistan.
Possibly only spares - but Russia- India ties are very strong now- and Western media and establishments are desperate to sink it- so one should take all such comments with several blocks of salt!!
"The state-owned United Engine Corporation controls development and manufacturing of all engines for military, civilian and space use in Russia and for Russian exports. The UEC's Klimov plant in St Petersburg had been developing the RD-93MA engine, which is a modification of the RD-93 engine, used on the JF-17 fighter, being built by Pakistan and China.
...
The reference to use in single-engine aircraft has given rise to speculation that the new engine is destined for the JF-17 fighter. This is because Russia does not have any active single-engine fighter project at the moment."
I cited them for convenience, it's well-known that Pakistan has been using RF-93 engines for over a decade already. I don't always have the time to find "politically correct" sources. Information should be assessed based on what it is, not who's sharing it.
It's owners have IT business in the US. Try to follow Aadi Achint on DefTalks and Major Gen Rajiv Narayanan. No MSM in India is trustworthy due to its corporate funding ties to US
It's precisely due to its closeness to the ruling party that I believe there's something to these claims and they aren't entirely fabricated fake news.
Their report suggests that there's an element of tacit state approval for this campaign, which I believe is to get Russia to cut Pakistan off.
The timing several months before Putin's trip to India could be to leave enough time for this to happen and then to shape the media space too.
It's like the warm Poutine's backing of the Trump's plan for Gaza. It cost to Russia the sympathy of hundred millions of disappointed and disgusted people.
Specially in Arabs streets and western public.
At the time where Arab leaders weight their submission to USA it's sure that Arab public opinion doesn't matter....
And at the time western leaders are madly russophobic, it's not important to disappoint an disgust the minority of people Russia friendly.
I'm not nice with India but Russia must be coherent and stop listening the bullshits of shit-eaters of Valdaï club jesters.
Pakistan is the most important USA agent in central Asia. It tries to fuck Russia every day and even jailed a prime minister because he was considered as to Russia friendly. As we seen here two days ago, it is building an axe which will cut Russia south bound.
India, despite its failing, defy USA and is one of the best Russia ally and an essential counterweight to China grip.
After Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Syria, Russia want to loose India too?
Russia & India are friends. Add China,Iran and the recent Russian support for Trumps peace plan in Israel and you have a peaceful ASIA. This will result to an end tto the war in Ukraine that NATO has supported. Wow, peace at last.
There is not going to be peace in Palestine till the last Palestinian has been fully genocided. And Israel's government ministers are openly saying this even today.
You will explain that to the more than 200 000 russian families bereaved and the hundreds thousands more which see a son, a father, a husband, without a leg, an arm or a face.
Explain to them why they had to suffer for nothing.
>It’ll increase Russia’s economic-financial dependence on China, thus making Russia even less likely to comply with India’s reported request that would disadvantage China’s Pakistani ally in any future clashes with India.
As far we know, Russia is a junior partner of China at best after the emerging scenarios of Ukraine Russia war. China is economically supporting Russia when Russia was under severe western imposed sanctions. China has increased the imports of crude oil by 49.49 million tonnes in August of this year. China currently not only the largest importer of Russian crude also of coal, LNG and oil products. Like in August 2025, China still remained the largest global buyer of Russian fossil fuels, accounting for 40% (EUR 5.7 bn) of Russia’s export revenues from the top five importers. Crude oil made up the largest share of China’s purchases at 58% (EUR 3.1 bn), followed by coal at 15% (EUR 855 mn), pipeline gas at 12% (EUR 676 mn), and oil products at 10% (EUR 553 mn). These factual data alone says that much of the Russian war economy is running from the Chinese subsidies not the massive industrialization of Russian military industrial complex. This gives the Chinese massive leverage over the defence and foreign policy related decision making process. If tomorrow Chinese say to the Russians that you have to build trade corridors through Pakistan's CPEC and support my vassal through arms and defence deals then Russia could not say 'NO' because neither it is a major global power nor it has the capability to withstand the repercussions eminating from the decision to 'NO' to the Chinese. It would mean that the whole house of card in Kremlin would come falling down in an instant. And this is what India exactly fear: a fusion between the Russo-sino axis. Add pakistan into that scenario and India would be salami sliced both geopolitically and militarily.
And this is why India buys Russian oil in such heavy numbers. Its not a economic necessity but geopolitical one. Indians don't want a fusion of Russians and chinese happening. Any of that in the making alone would prepare the ground for another massive war in the subcontinent. If you look at the numbers then India started to buy Russian fossil fuel after the war in Ukraine broke off. Middle East traditional supplier would overburdened from European orders and India looked towards Moscow as an economical and geopolitical viable alternative. But little did it knew that it would need to keep pumping the crude imports just to keep the wedge between Moscow and Beijing when it came to taking foreign policy decisions related to India even at the cost of massive tarrifs related sanctions. For example: India still remained the second-largest buyer of Russian fossil fuels, importing a total of EUR 3.6 bn. Crude oil dominated India’s purchases at 78% (EUR 2.9 bn), followed by coal at 14% (EUR 510 mn) and oil products at 8% (EUR 282 mn). And this is not stopping any time soon even though India is still diversifing it's crude imports away from Russia back to middle east and American suppliers. And this alone shows that Russian crude comes at a massive cost but geopolitical benefits and going back to the traditional suppliers comes at an economical cost but minimum at best when compared to buying from Russia and added benefits of receiving a favorable trade deal from US as well as geopolitical leverages over the middle east regimes. And that's why India is doing the both of these above mentioned scenarios. Cutting back of crude supplies from Russia while keeping it at minimum to protect its supply chain of 88% crude imports and at the same time increasing supplies of LNG, ethanol and crude from US, KSA, IRAQ, NIGERIA,QATAR, BRAZIL. Some even say that Syria back into the picture of oil and gas market thus promoting India to make better relations with the HTS regime back in Damascus.
Hence, Russia would definitely try to defy India's request and possibly go ahead with the Chinese demands but it's policy makers would also keep in their heads that any reckless decision to appease its masters would only result in a futile attempt to rekindle its relationship with Islamabad because for one Pakistan is an economically ruined by the military echelons and it has zero human capital and massive resources for Russians exploit. And don't think Pakistan's attempt at selling the day dreams of rare earth elements to yanks would even succeed because those REE are in balochistan region where even the Chinese have failed so far in its attempt to exploit the REE present in balochistan and GB.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
And of course, your suggestion that “Russia is China’s junior partner” is an infantile neocon talking point, unhitched from reality.
And a very American way of seeing things, in the worst possible way.
Yanks have been brainwashed into seeing the world though a black/white, turbo power lens and are unable to conceptualize anything else. Like for example a multipolar world order.
Russia should build an Indy car but the scumbags running things in America don't want the competition. They like competition of American citizens versus illegal immigrants
India has been attempting to be a super power now for how long? This is a country that still has the plague. They have done nothing as far as infrastructure inside its country. Having people wash their clothes in a river in 2025 isn’t a country serious about becoming a super power. The caste system still in place also shows its seriousness. What India is really trying to do is make sure those in power line their pockets with as much money as it can before that political side loses its grip on leadership of India. India’s problem is its committal depending on how much money its leaders walk away with. That’s why their super power dream will never become a reality. Or a few reasons.
"They have done nothing as far as infrastructure inside its country."
Absolutely not true about India.
This year they will average 25 km of new highway ---PER DAY---. For the year, 9,000 km of highway will be added to the country. And it is a big slowdown from the last few years.
Show me any other country adding in 9,000 kilometers of highway this year, and by the way it's a slow year for India.
This is very real infrastructure that the country will absolutely notice and feel and benefit from. I'm guessing no other country in the world is adding roads like this right now.
Sure, India is coming from a place with quite poor infrastructure. You may laugh but they had their big toilet campaign and they added 100 million more toilets to the country.
I wouldn't trust Western media in reporting Pak- Russia ties. They have repeatedly circulated fake news to destroy Indo- Russia ties; especially now that Putin is visiting India. Russia is unlikely to give Pak arms- Putin said so at the SCO summit. The fact that India has huge contracts on S 400 and SU 57 with Russia means it is unlikely these reports of arms sales are true. Industrial ties are possible of course.
Pakistan has been using these engines for over a decade, it's nothing new. The reports only claim that Russia refused to comply with India's request to stop exporting them to Pakistan.
Possibly only spares - but Russia- India ties are very strong now- and Western media and establishments are desperate to sink it- so one should take all such comments with several blocks of salt!!
This is an informative report from 2020:
"The state-owned United Engine Corporation controls development and manufacturing of all engines for military, civilian and space use in Russia and for Russian exports. The UEC's Klimov plant in St Petersburg had been developing the RD-93MA engine, which is a modification of the RD-93 engine, used on the JF-17 fighter, being built by Pakistan and China.
...
The reference to use in single-engine aircraft has given rise to speculation that the new engine is destined for the JF-17 fighter. This is because Russia does not have any active single-engine fighter project at the moment."
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2020/07/09/russia-confirms-progress-on-new-jet-engine-is-it-for-pak-jf-17-fighter.html
Btw, as you may well know " Diplomat" is very much a CIA funded outlet
I cited them for convenience, it's well-known that Pakistan has been using RF-93 engines for over a decade already. I don't always have the time to find "politically correct" sources. Information should be assessed based on what it is, not who's sharing it.
Republic World just published a video about these reports:
Russia Ignores India Over Engines Deal With Pakistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyuP32Z8u8w
It's owners have IT business in the US. Try to follow Aadi Achint on DefTalks and Major Gen Rajiv Narayanan. No MSM in India is trustworthy due to its corporate funding ties to US
The republic is a government shill at best. I would take their takes with a pinch of salt.
It's precisely due to its closeness to the ruling party that I believe there's something to these claims and they aren't entirely fabricated fake news.
Their report suggests that there's an element of tacit state approval for this campaign, which I believe is to get Russia to cut Pakistan off.
The timing several months before Putin's trip to India could be to leave enough time for this to happen and then to shape the media space too.
Always sticky with these kinds of situations. Fortunately Russia has experienced and skillful diplomats.
It would be nice if they stuck up for their friends a little more.
Who? Russia? What do you mean exactly?
It's not only about diplomats and power.
There are billions of folks who look at.
It's like the warm Poutine's backing of the Trump's plan for Gaza. It cost to Russia the sympathy of hundred millions of disappointed and disgusted people.
Specially in Arabs streets and western public.
At the time where Arab leaders weight their submission to USA it's sure that Arab public opinion doesn't matter....
And at the time western leaders are madly russophobic, it's not important to disappoint an disgust the minority of people Russia friendly.
I'm not nice with India but Russia must be coherent and stop listening the bullshits of shit-eaters of Valdaï club jesters.
Pakistan is the most important USA agent in central Asia. It tries to fuck Russia every day and even jailed a prime minister because he was considered as to Russia friendly. As we seen here two days ago, it is building an axe which will cut Russia south bound.
India, despite its failing, defy USA and is one of the best Russia ally and an essential counterweight to China grip.
After Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Syria, Russia want to loose India too?
For what it's worth, Russia just denied these reports and called them "illogical."
https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-big-setback-for-pakistan-russia-steps-back-from-military-support-denies-supplying-says-illogical-india-uncomfortable-3182916
Russia & India are friends. Add China,Iran and the recent Russian support for Trumps peace plan in Israel and you have a peaceful ASIA. This will result to an end tto the war in Ukraine that NATO has supported. Wow, peace at last.
There is not going to be peace in Palestine till the last Palestinian has been fully genocided. And Israel's government ministers are openly saying this even today.
Waouh???
You will explain that to the more than 200 000 russian families bereaved and the hundreds thousands more which see a son, a father, a husband, without a leg, an arm or a face.
Explain to them why they had to suffer for nothing.
They’ll get Odessa ;)
Yes. And each time Russian are taking Odessa...I wake up.
>It’ll increase Russia’s economic-financial dependence on China, thus making Russia even less likely to comply with India’s reported request that would disadvantage China’s Pakistani ally in any future clashes with India.
As far we know, Russia is a junior partner of China at best after the emerging scenarios of Ukraine Russia war. China is economically supporting Russia when Russia was under severe western imposed sanctions. China has increased the imports of crude oil by 49.49 million tonnes in August of this year. China currently not only the largest importer of Russian crude also of coal, LNG and oil products. Like in August 2025, China still remained the largest global buyer of Russian fossil fuels, accounting for 40% (EUR 5.7 bn) of Russia’s export revenues from the top five importers. Crude oil made up the largest share of China’s purchases at 58% (EUR 3.1 bn), followed by coal at 15% (EUR 855 mn), pipeline gas at 12% (EUR 676 mn), and oil products at 10% (EUR 553 mn). These factual data alone says that much of the Russian war economy is running from the Chinese subsidies not the massive industrialization of Russian military industrial complex. This gives the Chinese massive leverage over the defence and foreign policy related decision making process. If tomorrow Chinese say to the Russians that you have to build trade corridors through Pakistan's CPEC and support my vassal through arms and defence deals then Russia could not say 'NO' because neither it is a major global power nor it has the capability to withstand the repercussions eminating from the decision to 'NO' to the Chinese. It would mean that the whole house of card in Kremlin would come falling down in an instant. And this is what India exactly fear: a fusion between the Russo-sino axis. Add pakistan into that scenario and India would be salami sliced both geopolitically and militarily.
And this is why India buys Russian oil in such heavy numbers. Its not a economic necessity but geopolitical one. Indians don't want a fusion of Russians and chinese happening. Any of that in the making alone would prepare the ground for another massive war in the subcontinent. If you look at the numbers then India started to buy Russian fossil fuel after the war in Ukraine broke off. Middle East traditional supplier would overburdened from European orders and India looked towards Moscow as an economical and geopolitical viable alternative. But little did it knew that it would need to keep pumping the crude imports just to keep the wedge between Moscow and Beijing when it came to taking foreign policy decisions related to India even at the cost of massive tarrifs related sanctions. For example: India still remained the second-largest buyer of Russian fossil fuels, importing a total of EUR 3.6 bn. Crude oil dominated India’s purchases at 78% (EUR 2.9 bn), followed by coal at 14% (EUR 510 mn) and oil products at 8% (EUR 282 mn). And this is not stopping any time soon even though India is still diversifing it's crude imports away from Russia back to middle east and American suppliers. And this alone shows that Russian crude comes at a massive cost but geopolitical benefits and going back to the traditional suppliers comes at an economical cost but minimum at best when compared to buying from Russia and added benefits of receiving a favorable trade deal from US as well as geopolitical leverages over the middle east regimes. And that's why India is doing the both of these above mentioned scenarios. Cutting back of crude supplies from Russia while keeping it at minimum to protect its supply chain of 88% crude imports and at the same time increasing supplies of LNG, ethanol and crude from US, KSA, IRAQ, NIGERIA,QATAR, BRAZIL. Some even say that Syria back into the picture of oil and gas market thus promoting India to make better relations with the HTS regime back in Damascus.
Hence, Russia would definitely try to defy India's request and possibly go ahead with the Chinese demands but it's policy makers would also keep in their heads that any reckless decision to appease its masters would only result in a futile attempt to rekindle its relationship with Islamabad because for one Pakistan is an economically ruined by the military echelons and it has zero human capital and massive resources for Russians exploit. And don't think Pakistan's attempt at selling the day dreams of rare earth elements to yanks would even succeed because those REE are in balochistan region where even the Chinese have failed so far in its attempt to exploit the REE present in balochistan and GB.
Stopped reading at “Russian war economy”.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
And of course, your suggestion that “Russia is China’s junior partner” is an infantile neocon talking point, unhitched from reality.
And a very American way of seeing things, in the worst possible way.
Yanks have been brainwashed into seeing the world though a black/white, turbo power lens and are unable to conceptualize anything else. Like for example a multipolar world order.
Friendly relations between Russia & America are critical
India would have most likely had made a request .
Russia would be obligated to deliver the engines as per contract with china
Yeah, this whole story have the stench of some neocon stooge trying to create problems.
Thanks for your great work Andrew!
We've shared this link on 'The Stacks'
https://askeptic.substack.com/p/the-stacks
How reliable will India be, going forward?
That is an honest question, BTW.
Modi is running a race for cuddling Trump more than Pakistaneses.
It seems that everybody wants to cuddle Trump.
That smell stampede
Trump may be a roaring ass, but the United States has the power and everyone knows it.
Russia should build an Indy car but the scumbags running things in America don't want the competition. They like competition of American citizens versus illegal immigrants
India has been attempting to be a super power now for how long? This is a country that still has the plague. They have done nothing as far as infrastructure inside its country. Having people wash their clothes in a river in 2025 isn’t a country serious about becoming a super power. The caste system still in place also shows its seriousness. What India is really trying to do is make sure those in power line their pockets with as much money as it can before that political side loses its grip on leadership of India. India’s problem is its committal depending on how much money its leaders walk away with. That’s why their super power dream will never become a reality. Or a few reasons.
"They have done nothing as far as infrastructure inside its country."
Absolutely not true about India.
This year they will average 25 km of new highway ---PER DAY---. For the year, 9,000 km of highway will be added to the country. And it is a big slowdown from the last few years.
Show me any other country adding in 9,000 kilometers of highway this year, and by the way it's a slow year for India.
This is very real infrastructure that the country will absolutely notice and feel and benefit from. I'm guessing no other country in the world is adding roads like this right now.
Sure, India is coming from a place with quite poor infrastructure. You may laugh but they had their big toilet campaign and they added 100 million more toilets to the country.
We are going to be flying from place to place soon