Building more facilities there to complement Pituffik Space Base would further the US’ “Golden Dome” missile defense plans for obtaining a strategic edge over Russia while extracting more critical minerals from there would reduce dependence on vulnerable Chinese supply chains.
I was throwing the Greenland issue around since Trump brought it up, looking at it from all angles like a Rubik Cube. The ‘Island’, actually a lot larger than the Continent of Australia, is covered with ice in 80% that is 5,000 feet thick on the average. That would be close to a mile ice thickness. In addition, with the miniscule (57,000) population comes close to zero infrastructure.
After WWII the US offered $100 million in gold to buy the Island and the offer was brushed off. In 1959 they sent a military expeditionary force with countless snowmobiles and giant trucks, taking a nuclear reactor to generate energy to impress the commies. They also carried truckloads of two inch thick stakes in case they have to bribe the local polar bears.
Warning 1: Rare earth minerals were NOT an issue at the time!
Warning 2: To dig for samples and start mining through a mile of ice is absurdly expensive and takes the delivery of trainloads of equipment to each location. There are endless territories in Canada and Alaska already accessible for America. Rare earth is always discovered where US/NATO wants to occupy land like in Ukraine.
So why is Trump so eager to take control of Greenland?
Two major reasons:
1, F-35s with an extended tank can fly to Russia with a single refill from the East of Greenland and deliver nukes.
2, Missiles coming from Russia can be detected and maybe stopped if the defense operates from Greenland earlier. Trump’s major concern is the defense of the New York area and I trust you can sort it out why. On the other hand missile technology is at the point where hypersonics can execute midflight directional changes making interception close to impossible. In a decade or two cruise missiles will circle the globe to attack targets from any direction.
The problem is that Greenlanders understand fully what the game is but they do not have the capacity to defend their Island. Dania can threaten the breakdown of NATO in case but it is unlikely to materialize. So, Trump can just move in any time if Congress does not get in his way.
The problem is that Greenlanders understand fully what the game is but they do not have the capacity to defend their Island. Dania can threaten the breakdown of NATO in case but it is unlikely to materialize. So, Trump can just move in any time if Congress does not get in his way.
why use greenland when you can send nukes from romania? the problem is not this, the problem is who the current hackers of the russian power see as friends and enemies, and it's the opposite of what should be. they both contrariate western europe making them enemies and try to seduce the byzantinized ones, keeping these opportunists attracted by naivety as enemies. both strategies failed, the dudes know it and keep it this way because this is their own ticket to power. on both sides of the wall, the doomed manipulators make each other artificially "useful". i bet that some morons from the leningrad mafia prefer to give up russian interests in favor of their sponsors like denmark, so maybe that's what triggered trump. maybe move them in the danish embassy until this issue is settled? and another monstrosity of this attitude is how it reminds the other scandinavians what the russian-danish "friendship" means - it means that, in reaction to the swedes who unified russia, the finns who settled it and the norwegians who were the first real nordic partners, russia allied itself with the danish pirates against all of them, because the byzanto-hunnic politics means not only all conspiracies in one, but also all betrayals in one.
But the thing is, USA can do anything in Greenland that "we" want. Anything, just by asking. Except outright owning its resources. US has had military bases and personnel there since WW2. Previously, a lot more - scaled back by USA choice.
The fact that Trump wants absolute and unconditional ownership over Greenland tells me exactly what he has on his mind. WAR! He knows perfectly well that full ownership is unavoidable in order to materialize his plan. He is looking at the centuries of ownership by Dania and Greenland's 57,000 residents as something that can be brushed aside, swept under the carpet. The issue is that international order cannot be swept under the carpet that easily. I think the act of the US Senate has the potential to stop the whole circus. The whole of the conflict originates from a single mind of a megalomaniac that is bent on WAR and that is NUCLEAR WAR.
As outlined in your two Warnings, minerals are not the issue, since it would be far too difficult to extract, process, and transport them. Trump is going with the “mineral” feint to keep from explaining to brain-dead Americans Greenland’s geostrategic importance in countering Russian and Chinese aggression. When (not if) America installs its Iron Dome equivalent, interceptors will be placed in Alaska to protect our western states and Greenland to protect our eastern states. More info here:
is there something so subtle that i missed without direct knowledge? why would someone send the missiles over the poles when the direct way is shorter?
Look at the maps at my link. The shortest ICBM flight from Russia to, say, New York or Seattle is over the arctic circle, not east or west from the launch site.
maybe, but what are 500 km for a missile with 10.000 km range? is the core territory of both countries so well protected that they need to take that shortcut?
Btw, with the Iran bombing and Zelensky successfully destroying Russia’s bombers with drones I checked out which base our B2s reside at…almost at the geographic center of America. So that location is to protect arguably our most important military assets even though it means every mission will take 3 hours longer to complete. Oh, and in 2020 a few terrorists in Kenya destroyed maybe a hundred million dollars worth of our air assets along with killing 4 Americans employed by the DoD…they did it with AKs and cheap Toyota trucks. So military bases outside of America are suboptimal to say the least.
I don’t know that Trump would need to formally ‘annex’ Greenland (which would constitutionally be very problematic). More likely in my view would be for him to arm-twist Denmark into agreeing to a referendum on independence, which would almost certainly pass, and then make the Greenlanders an offer they couldn’t refuse of Associated Territory status, like Puerto Rico, Guam, or Micronesia.
From Trump's perspective, as a real estate guy he knows the difference between owning and leasing land. No Great Power can tolerate another polity tolling access to critical interests, critical resources, or critical economies. Greenland is not Ukraine, the Europeans would do well not to test Trump on this issue.
Trump’s new international policy is “we can take it because we’re bigger than they are.” The policy’s first reveal was in Venezuela, when our country, who spends $895 billion on our military, quickly overran Venezuela, who spends $4 billion on their military. Next up, Cuba, followed by taking candy from a baby.
Just another dream of Trump's. Russia can send missiles over the South Pole to strick America from the south. Please Trump make friends with Russia and together the 2 countries can rule the world. Russians are Europeans just like the majority of theAmerican population. Please Donald make the world safer rather then being on the edge of mutual annialition.
It has always struck me that ww1, ww2, and the Cold war 1.0 and 2.0 post Ukraine in many ways have been about setting caucasians against one another, with the result that all are weakened. It’s ridiculously sad, and whether or not the deliberations of someone’s grand strategy, why do we fall for it again and again? Indeed if we have common European origins we are distant family to one another. Yet the demonising continues decade after decade. Go back further and Europeans fought great religious wars in the 1600s. It’s crazy and always has been. So never expect it to end, unfortunately.
There's a real possibility that taking Greenland is retribution for either the EU or Denmark for something that's gone on under the radar.
The EU-crats has been trying to triangulate with China for a long time. Have they offered China a mineral deals under the table? Once China starts setting up camps and digging holes in the ground it could be very hard to dislodge them...just look at Ukraine. In a non-state like Greenland there's no telling what undetected military or mixed use stuff they could be importing/hiding under the pretext of mining.
Trump is further ruining America internally, diplomatically and economically. As well as rapidly driving toward large scale conflict with multiple nations. If there is any goal, it might be, to be the last military standing after a global conflagration. The wellbeing of any of the earths inhabitants (apart from maybe Israel) seems irrelevant.
What I don't understand is if it's a military matter, Trump just have to ask politely and Danish and all Europeans puppets will lay down madly to allow USA installing all the US basis they want in Greenland. They can even put 3 naval basis, 3 missiles systems, 3 airports with hundreds of fighter jets, and 3 bases with 50000 soldiers. Europeans puppets would enjoy of such a thing.
So, I don't think it's a strategic matter.
Rather an economic matter.
Not only Greenland resources but fishing resources and also Arctic ocean mining resources
Yeah, senators “introduce” bills all the time. Unfortunately, Republicans are like a herd of cats. They can’t even keep moving in the same direction long enough to defund ObamaCare, which Trump promised to “repeal and replace” over 10 years ago. But let’s say lighting strikes and the House and Senate both agree. Then Trump vetos it, and that’s the end of it.
I think the U.S. envisages Greenland as a bargaining chip in its dealings with the EU vis-à-vis Russia. U.S. control of Greenland neutralizes EU military assets as part of a potential postwar deal with Russia in Ukraine. More importantly, it prevents the U.S. from acting as a nuclear EU vassal. However, there is every indication that the EU will leverage several of his advisers, compelling Trump to dilute his “demands”. Comments by NATO Secretary-General Rutte, Secretary of State Rubio, VP Vance, and others suggest this. In the meantime, joint U.S.–Danish efforts to form a working group will take time, allowing opportunities for EU provocations that could justify a NATO operation in Greenland (à la Baltic/Eastern Sentries) with U.S. support. So far the U.S. is balking at larger troop deployments or expanded basing rights there, so a false flag is likely being readied—to force Trump’s hand.
In addition to jettisoning a U.S.–Russia détente, Trump has already partly subordinated the U.S. to the EU in exchange for tariff deals, NATO expenditure, and other arrangements, in effect ceding some leverage to his European dependents. This likely incentivized EU manipulations such as the cable, drone, and other provocations over the past year, giving Ukraine and Co. hope that it could rely on U.S. backing vs. Russia as a last resort; similar efforts helped alter Trump’s perceptions of Putin’s motives, precipitating a break, however tentative, in U.S.–Russia negotiations. Trump has many more assets than the EU does, yet he allowed the weaker party to mold his vision and thereby constrain his freedom of action. Since last spring the European wing of NATO has slowly asserted its influence at the expense of Trump’s original intentions.
(This kind of command-and-control usurpation by U.S. vassals, incidentally, is a story in itself and suggests a parallel “deep-state” structure.)
Interesting. You should expand on that, maybe on your substack?
For sure, if the US builds the "golden dome" and it depends on bases in Greenland (which seems to be technically true from what I tell), and assuming the system is as weak as its weakest point, then allowing those bases to fall under the jurisdiction of a EU country would be a huge liability. That would be a negotiating trump card that Brussels would use sooner or later, probably at the worst time too.
BUT TO BE SURE NONE OF THE SIDES ABUSES THIS IRREPLACEABLE WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY, MAKE SURE GREENLAND BECOMES TERRITORY WITH NON-NUCLEAR REGIME BEFORE ANY CHANGE OF STATUS.
According to Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, during the Cold War the US had 30 bases on Greenland. Now there is one. Presumably the US could put anything it wants on Greenland without annexation?
If Russia does have the Poseidon ready to go, or when she would have it, I would not see a lot of strategic advantage. Moreover, Russia will need to dominate the Atlantic underwater to deny the EU any hope of American help in case of extreme adventurism on their part. On the contrary, I see a lot of US expenditure, again away from home, bringing their society to the brink of an explosion. Greenland would require both military, civilian, and social expenditure for many years to come. I do not see the US being able to accomplish this and a lot more when we think of Trump's plans.
They should run a poll in Greenland: USA, Russia or China? Black Sheep has a new vid on Greenland. Haven't watched it yet but downloaded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLUBSXNm2j0
I was throwing the Greenland issue around since Trump brought it up, looking at it from all angles like a Rubik Cube. The ‘Island’, actually a lot larger than the Continent of Australia, is covered with ice in 80% that is 5,000 feet thick on the average. That would be close to a mile ice thickness. In addition, with the miniscule (57,000) population comes close to zero infrastructure.
After WWII the US offered $100 million in gold to buy the Island and the offer was brushed off. In 1959 they sent a military expeditionary force with countless snowmobiles and giant trucks, taking a nuclear reactor to generate energy to impress the commies. They also carried truckloads of two inch thick stakes in case they have to bribe the local polar bears.
Warning 1: Rare earth minerals were NOT an issue at the time!
Warning 2: To dig for samples and start mining through a mile of ice is absurdly expensive and takes the delivery of trainloads of equipment to each location. There are endless territories in Canada and Alaska already accessible for America. Rare earth is always discovered where US/NATO wants to occupy land like in Ukraine.
So why is Trump so eager to take control of Greenland?
Two major reasons:
1, F-35s with an extended tank can fly to Russia with a single refill from the East of Greenland and deliver nukes.
2, Missiles coming from Russia can be detected and maybe stopped if the defense operates from Greenland earlier. Trump’s major concern is the defense of the New York area and I trust you can sort it out why. On the other hand missile technology is at the point where hypersonics can execute midflight directional changes making interception close to impossible. In a decade or two cruise missiles will circle the globe to attack targets from any direction.
The problem is that Greenlanders understand fully what the game is but they do not have the capacity to defend their Island. Dania can threaten the breakdown of NATO in case but it is unlikely to materialize. So, Trump can just move in any time if Congress does not get in his way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E67X58oa1vs
The problem is that Greenlanders understand fully what the game is but they do not have the capacity to defend their Island. Dania can threaten the breakdown of NATO in case but it is unlikely to materialize. So, Trump can just move in any time if Congress does not get in his way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E67X58oa1vs
why use greenland when you can send nukes from romania? the problem is not this, the problem is who the current hackers of the russian power see as friends and enemies, and it's the opposite of what should be. they both contrariate western europe making them enemies and try to seduce the byzantinized ones, keeping these opportunists attracted by naivety as enemies. both strategies failed, the dudes know it and keep it this way because this is their own ticket to power. on both sides of the wall, the doomed manipulators make each other artificially "useful". i bet that some morons from the leningrad mafia prefer to give up russian interests in favor of their sponsors like denmark, so maybe that's what triggered trump. maybe move them in the danish embassy until this issue is settled? and another monstrosity of this attitude is how it reminds the other scandinavians what the russian-danish "friendship" means - it means that, in reaction to the swedes who unified russia, the finns who settled it and the norwegians who were the first real nordic partners, russia allied itself with the danish pirates against all of them, because the byzanto-hunnic politics means not only all conspiracies in one, but also all betrayals in one.
But the thing is, USA can do anything in Greenland that "we" want. Anything, just by asking. Except outright owning its resources. US has had military bases and personnel there since WW2. Previously, a lot more - scaled back by USA choice.
Probably not many Snyder fans here, but have a look at his little fable; https://substack.com/home/post/p-184143941
Threatening Greenland is stupider even than bullying Canada.
The fact that Trump wants absolute and unconditional ownership over Greenland tells me exactly what he has on his mind. WAR! He knows perfectly well that full ownership is unavoidable in order to materialize his plan. He is looking at the centuries of ownership by Dania and Greenland's 57,000 residents as something that can be brushed aside, swept under the carpet. The issue is that international order cannot be swept under the carpet that easily. I think the act of the US Senate has the potential to stop the whole circus. The whole of the conflict originates from a single mind of a megalomaniac that is bent on WAR and that is NUCLEAR WAR.
All these moves werent thought up by Trump himself. They've been in the planning for decades if not longer.
https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/?srsltid=AfmBOoqIm1PQXJzGLAe6o23X91eApQruejDwnV4PlFuCz89vDnLUxGYD
As outlined in your two Warnings, minerals are not the issue, since it would be far too difficult to extract, process, and transport them. Trump is going with the “mineral” feint to keep from explaining to brain-dead Americans Greenland’s geostrategic importance in countering Russian and Chinese aggression. When (not if) America installs its Iron Dome equivalent, interceptors will be placed in Alaska to protect our western states and Greenland to protect our eastern states. More info here:
https://dailyreckoning.com/gold-guns-and-greenland/
(Discussion of Greenland’s minerals starts about halfway down, followed by the country’s strategic importance, illustrated with maps.)
Yeah, that website figured it out :)) Except for the offensive strategic value, a swarm of F35s with nukes against the European areas of the RF.
is there something so subtle that i missed without direct knowledge? why would someone send the missiles over the poles when the direct way is shorter?
Look at the maps at my link. The shortest ICBM flight from Russia to, say, New York or Seattle is over the arctic circle, not east or west from the launch site.
maybe, but what are 500 km for a missile with 10.000 km range? is the core territory of both countries so well protected that they need to take that shortcut?
Btw, with the Iran bombing and Zelensky successfully destroying Russia’s bombers with drones I checked out which base our B2s reside at…almost at the geographic center of America. So that location is to protect arguably our most important military assets even though it means every mission will take 3 hours longer to complete. Oh, and in 2020 a few terrorists in Kenya destroyed maybe a hundred million dollars worth of our air assets along with killing 4 Americans employed by the DoD…they did it with AKs and cheap Toyota trucks. So military bases outside of America are suboptimal to say the least.
RF can just set off a tsunami
Thanks once again for your insights.
I don’t know that Trump would need to formally ‘annex’ Greenland (which would constitutionally be very problematic). More likely in my view would be for him to arm-twist Denmark into agreeing to a referendum on independence, which would almost certainly pass, and then make the Greenlanders an offer they couldn’t refuse of Associated Territory status, like Puerto Rico, Guam, or Micronesia.
LF
From Trump's perspective, as a real estate guy he knows the difference between owning and leasing land. No Great Power can tolerate another polity tolling access to critical interests, critical resources, or critical economies. Greenland is not Ukraine, the Europeans would do well not to test Trump on this issue.
Trump’s new international policy is “we can take it because we’re bigger than they are.” The policy’s first reveal was in Venezuela, when our country, who spends $895 billion on our military, quickly overran Venezuela, who spends $4 billion on their military. Next up, Cuba, followed by taking candy from a baby.
Just another dream of Trump's. Russia can send missiles over the South Pole to strick America from the south. Please Trump make friends with Russia and together the 2 countries can rule the world. Russians are Europeans just like the majority of theAmerican population. Please Donald make the world safer rather then being on the edge of mutual annialition.
It has always struck me that ww1, ww2, and the Cold war 1.0 and 2.0 post Ukraine in many ways have been about setting caucasians against one another, with the result that all are weakened. It’s ridiculously sad, and whether or not the deliberations of someone’s grand strategy, why do we fall for it again and again? Indeed if we have common European origins we are distant family to one another. Yet the demonising continues decade after decade. Go back further and Europeans fought great religious wars in the 1600s. It’s crazy and always has been. So never expect it to end, unfortunately.
There's a real possibility that taking Greenland is retribution for either the EU or Denmark for something that's gone on under the radar.
The EU-crats has been trying to triangulate with China for a long time. Have they offered China a mineral deals under the table? Once China starts setting up camps and digging holes in the ground it could be very hard to dislodge them...just look at Ukraine. In a non-state like Greenland there's no telling what undetected military or mixed use stuff they could be importing/hiding under the pretext of mining.
Trump is further ruining America internally, diplomatically and economically. As well as rapidly driving toward large scale conflict with multiple nations. If there is any goal, it might be, to be the last military standing after a global conflagration. The wellbeing of any of the earths inhabitants (apart from maybe Israel) seems irrelevant.
What I don't understand is if it's a military matter, Trump just have to ask politely and Danish and all Europeans puppets will lay down madly to allow USA installing all the US basis they want in Greenland. They can even put 3 naval basis, 3 missiles systems, 3 airports with hundreds of fighter jets, and 3 bases with 50000 soldiers. Europeans puppets would enjoy of such a thing.
So, I don't think it's a strategic matter.
Rather an economic matter.
Not only Greenland resources but fishing resources and also Arctic ocean mining resources
Ooooops, US senators introduce bill to stop Trump seizing Greenland
The bipartisan bill would bar funding for any move to occupy or annex the territory of a NATO member state.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/14/us-senators-introduce-bill-to-stop-trump-seizing-greenland
Yeah, senators “introduce” bills all the time. Unfortunately, Republicans are like a herd of cats. They can’t even keep moving in the same direction long enough to defund ObamaCare, which Trump promised to “repeal and replace” over 10 years ago. But let’s say lighting strikes and the House and Senate both agree. Then Trump vetos it, and that’s the end of it.
maybe start couping these guys first?
I think the U.S. envisages Greenland as a bargaining chip in its dealings with the EU vis-à-vis Russia. U.S. control of Greenland neutralizes EU military assets as part of a potential postwar deal with Russia in Ukraine. More importantly, it prevents the U.S. from acting as a nuclear EU vassal. However, there is every indication that the EU will leverage several of his advisers, compelling Trump to dilute his “demands”. Comments by NATO Secretary-General Rutte, Secretary of State Rubio, VP Vance, and others suggest this. In the meantime, joint U.S.–Danish efforts to form a working group will take time, allowing opportunities for EU provocations that could justify a NATO operation in Greenland (à la Baltic/Eastern Sentries) with U.S. support. So far the U.S. is balking at larger troop deployments or expanded basing rights there, so a false flag is likely being readied—to force Trump’s hand.
In addition to jettisoning a U.S.–Russia détente, Trump has already partly subordinated the U.S. to the EU in exchange for tariff deals, NATO expenditure, and other arrangements, in effect ceding some leverage to his European dependents. This likely incentivized EU manipulations such as the cable, drone, and other provocations over the past year, giving Ukraine and Co. hope that it could rely on U.S. backing vs. Russia as a last resort; similar efforts helped alter Trump’s perceptions of Putin’s motives, precipitating a break, however tentative, in U.S.–Russia negotiations. Trump has many more assets than the EU does, yet he allowed the weaker party to mold his vision and thereby constrain his freedom of action. Since last spring the European wing of NATO has slowly asserted its influence at the expense of Trump’s original intentions.
(This kind of command-and-control usurpation by U.S. vassals, incidentally, is a story in itself and suggests a parallel “deep-state” structure.)
Interesting. You should expand on that, maybe on your substack?
For sure, if the US builds the "golden dome" and it depends on bases in Greenland (which seems to be technically true from what I tell), and assuming the system is as weak as its weakest point, then allowing those bases to fall under the jurisdiction of a EU country would be a huge liability. That would be a negotiating trump card that Brussels would use sooner or later, probably at the worst time too.
BUT TO BE SURE NONE OF THE SIDES ABUSES THIS IRREPLACEABLE WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY, MAKE SURE GREENLAND BECOMES TERRITORY WITH NON-NUCLEAR REGIME BEFORE ANY CHANGE OF STATUS.
According to Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, during the Cold War the US had 30 bases on Greenland. Now there is one. Presumably the US could put anything it wants on Greenland without annexation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQeZrJbrfs
Yes but what's to prevent Denmark from offering China a base or two there as well? Nothing except China hasn't asked yet, seems to me.
“Techno-feudal Fortress America”
Andrew, Byron King had an interesting article about this as well that I linked yesterday @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/ - "Gold, Guns and Greenland" - https://dailyreckoning.com/gold-guns-and-greenland/
And I have linked a few others. Linking your take today as usual.
If Russia does have the Poseidon ready to go, or when she would have it, I would not see a lot of strategic advantage. Moreover, Russia will need to dominate the Atlantic underwater to deny the EU any hope of American help in case of extreme adventurism on their part. On the contrary, I see a lot of US expenditure, again away from home, bringing their society to the brink of an explosion. Greenland would require both military, civilian, and social expenditure for many years to come. I do not see the US being able to accomplish this and a lot more when we think of Trump's plans.
Jamaica should take Greenland and turn it into a canabis farm.
MAKE GREENLAND GREEN MAAAAN
They should run a poll in Greenland: USA, Russia or China? Black Sheep has a new vid on Greenland. Haven't watched it yet but downloaded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLUBSXNm2j0