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Pakistan also is poor and dependent upon Saudi largesse.

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Pak. is of some importance for ourselves here in central Ontario, Canada of late - chainsawing in the cold out here with some terrific Pak-manufactured leather gloves; high quality organic short rice from there regularly consumed; excellent very lg canvas tent we make use of...

Even if China cannot make intended use of much of its worldwide infrastructure spending, it had big surplus to spend, employed many for a time, so less of a disappointment maybe than might be thought. I mean, in modernity and hypermodernity, overproduction is the problematic order of the day in many regards. (Some would pin it on "capitalism" or "late" capitalism, but going deeper one might choose not to or not wholly.)

As for being Islamic spokespeople, I do not think chauvinism toward non-Arabic speakers (and surely further there's a pecking order among Arabs themselves) allows for such stature. (Something I did not mention in another comment earlier taking to task a commenter re Turkey-Israel relations, I suggest reading the Turkish writer M Akyol's take on Islamic-Christian-Jewish relationship;  he pointedly notes that when it comes to decrying "orientalists" as serving western colonials' purpose (eg prominently E Said), he properly notes that among these were eminent scholars who were the good Orientalists, and they were Jewish(of course what Said does not mention)).

As for Pak-US ties, one would think they are on to (not to mention having been willing participants in) anglosupremo duplicities...which embrace might suggest a modicum of desperation.

"in all honesty might never will [sic] be" - There are some commonalities at least in the anglosupremo background, but how'd Pak-apologists play that aspect up when trying to draw near and get respect from one of those supremos?

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