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Nakayama's avatar

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel some of the people in the AMC or NRPRs are really embedded moles. Their job is to exaggerate the strength BRICS does NOT have, causing false hope among people under suppression. This is Tai-Chi: use the enemy's force to defeat the enemy, and is a much better approach than the usual neocon tactics. The other side of the coin is to induce the US to launch more or deeper wars around the globe. On the surface, the US hegemony is maintained longer. In reality, the foundation of the US is rotten further.

Gpcus's avatar

"its only purpose is to increase non-Western countries’ involvement in global governance" is an admission and a proof it's an anti-western purpose, and rightly so... global governance is a tool of western domination.

Feral Finster's avatar

Tl;Dr BRICS is a glorified dorm room bull session. Settle down, people.

Randy's avatar

Albert Einstein is credited with saying, “make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Reducing a coalition of 11 sovereign nations to a “glorified dorm room bull session” is to simplify it ad absurdum, like saying BRICS was formed only to “replace the dollar.”

James Schwartz's avatar

BRICS was created as a store of value, but it was doomed to fail as there is no bond market behind it and it will take decades for that to come into play. Those countries involved will use it to move oil transactions but even then most countries involved wish to use their own currency. Russia doesn’t want big amounts India’s Rupee because it’s worthless to them. India has nothing Russia needs or wants really. Russia also has a stronger currency. India was always a “soft” member of this “alliance” because of its beep mistrust of China. The idea of BRICS was to lose using the petrodollar but nobody wants the BRICS currency either.

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Jun 16, 2025
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James Schwartz's avatar

There’s no bond market for this “currency”. It also has no denomination. What is it? A dollar? $1,000? $10,000? It’s pegged to gold supposedly which of course is a good thing but is it tied to every countries gold holdings? What happens if a country needs those reserves and pulls it out? Too many questions and too little answers when Bitcoin does this and more plus no need for a middleman and the transaction is on chain and done in minutes. It’s old technology that isn’t needed.

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Andrew Korybko's avatar

Right, popular perceptions of BRICS from all sides have taken on a life of their own, and this has led to a lot of confusion about the group.

To be sure, some here in Russia -- what I call the pro-BRI policymaking faction and their media surrogates -- have contributed to this for ideological-strategic reasons.

But the dominant policymaking faction -- what I call the pragmatists/balancers, of which Putin is the main one and Ryabkov is up there too -- doesn't agree with this.

It's actually very complicated if you peek behind the curtain a bit and/or extrapolate about what's going on behind closed doors, both here in Russia and in other BRICS countries.

One thing is for sure, and it's that India especially is opposed to these false perceptions because they serve as a pretext for the US to put more pressure upon it.

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Andrew Korybko's avatar

Yes, you're right, BRICS gave hope to billions of people, but instead of calmly explaining the group's limitations, some forces within some members and especially enthusiasts in the media exaggerated everything, thus leading to false expectations that'll inevitably result in deep disappointment.

As for the timing of this clarification, which is but the latest in a line thereof, I believe that it's independent of the dynamics in US-Russian relations. My belief is that the dominant balancing/pragmatist policymaking faction finally realizes how counterproductive these false perceptions of BRICS have been for Russian interests.

And finally, while I agree that a recalibration of the global system is inevitable, I don't place much faith in BRICS bringing it about; rather, I expect this to happen through unilateral efforts, bilateral ones, and "coalitions of the willing" (both within BRICS, outside of it, and between BRICS and non-BRICS countries).

BRICS is just too diverse and some members have contradictory interests (China-India, Egypt-Ethiopia, Iran-UAE) for there to be any realistic chance of them making meaningfully concerted moves. There's also too much economic asymmetry among them for any move to help all of them without being at another's expense.

David Ginsburg's avatar

A sociological study published in the early 60s or 70s, I forget which, showed that middle class kids in the UK were able to defer immediate gratification in order to achieve their long term goals, whereas working class kids could not. They weren’t willing to risk waiting for something better.

By extrapolating these results to modern-day America, I would suggest that a big difference would be found in the unwillingness or inability, of the middle to upper middle classes to defer gratification - hence their dependence on several credit cards - wanting everything now.

In this context, America’s middle and upper middle classes project their unwillingness, or inability, to defer gratification onto everyone else, in this particular instance onto the members of BRICS and BRICS writ large.

At the risk of a gross overgeneralisation, I would suggest that Americans don’t do patience or long-term planning, expecting to see a rules-governed, hierarchically structured organisation already in place, wherein a majority of members have already surrendered their sovereignty to an overarching governing body i.e. Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, their own warmongering proclivities projected onto them. And that’s what scares them shitless.

Ladyc's avatar

I think some Trump supporters may be deluded on BRICS but do are many left wing people who rail about the evils of the US ‘empire’ and the left is more susceptible to that. But many Trump supporters know Russia has to look out for itself and that BRICS is no shining white knight, but I think they cheer that perhaps a multipolar world could bring a balance of power that would constrain the worst in US imperial tendencies. What they see in Russia moreover specifically is a country that still cares about conservative and/or Christian social values and they like it, much the same way they like to see Hungary, Poland, Italy, or other countries embrace these values. But likely they note that Russia has specifically been isolated by the deep state and the knee jerk reaction is to perhaps see it as a ‘hero’ since it’s obvious that its true sin is to dare actual sovereignty in a world of client states? There are also some black pilled sorts who believe Americans and westerners won’t be free from the deep state until the dollar declines. They don’t think freedom would be possible without destructive defollarization cataclysm. But that’s not most Trumpsters.