India has a deep understanding with Russia at the strategic level, and does not take childish immature offence at seemingly Pro-China pronouncements by honourable Mr Sergei Lavrov, or say at Russia's neutrality in the recent Indo-Pak standoff. India is capable of dealing with the menace of terrorist threats from Pakistan on its own via diplomatic means and by strengthening of internal security; and does not expect Russia or anyone else to issue loud ostentatious denunciation of Pakistan simply for massaging its ego. Rabble rousing does not make a physical difference to any state of affairs. It is actually an army of You-Tubers and news channels aligned with Western interests and operating in India which voice disapproval at Russia's positions day in and day out on the flimsiest of pretext and try to portray their outbursts as resentment against what they brand as Russian "betrayal of India". Some channels, such as FirstPost of Palki Sharma Upadhyay notoreity, exhibit manifest anti-Russian bias because of personal dislike of Russia on part of their lead anchors; and casual observers are liable to be led astray into mistaking such channels as being close to Indian policy-making circles and reflective of official opinion because of the fact that these channels have an oversized footprint at Raisina Dialogue and such counterparts of the Valdai club in India. In reality, these news channels and influencers do not reflect official Indian perception or policy even remotely, though it is not denied that their incessant propaganda might exert some subconscious influence on minds of politicians and bureaucrats at the individual level. The analogy of Abby Martin, an anti-Russia correspondent-anchor who had held job at RT news for a long time before her biased reporting on the Ukrainian conflict betrayed her real leanings, will help to elucidate things. As for the Observer Research Foundation, even that is not really a "nationalist" or "patriot" think tank, but for much of its existence it has been an Australian influence projector whose motive has been to influence public policy in India to bring it in alignment with larger Atlanticist geostrategic objectives.
India and Russia feature a deep-rooted "connect" on the people to people level, grounded in civilisational alignment and commonality of ambitions at the social and spiritual level. Reading too much into every nuance is not Indian's cup of tea.
Can you please break up the long paragraph into a few more? My aged eyesight has some problems tracing the lines.
I like many of your points. I wonder what you think about: (1) migration of western companies from China to India, which hence increased the lobbying power of the Western governments and covered up the business influence from Western companies through media channels. (2) I watched FirstPost for a while, then goofed off. What would you suggest for English reporting from India's perspective?
We should be cautious of geopolitical experts who write for a living or are beholden to a party.It makes little sense for Russia to align with Pakistan , which played a significant role in damaging Russia's forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s. I am not exaggerating; Pakistan made every effort to conceal and safeguard OBL; he was finally located by the Americans just a kilometre away from a Pakistani garrison. India, on the other hand, has always relied heavily on Russian logistics, including the highly effective BrahMos missile.
The Indians may already have the latest version, which is even faster. Both Russians and Indians should never forget the moral, psychological, and logistical support that Mr. Breezhnev provided to the Indians in 1971, amidst intense American pressure. This is recent history, and people of my generation dare not forget how the Russians stood by us.
Operation Sindoor was an outstanding success, stunning both the Western media and Western "military experts." No wonder they shy away from commenting on the decimation of 11 Pakistani airbases within minutes. The US needed approximately 40 days of bombing to neutralise the primitive Iraqi air and ground defence system. The Indians did the job in less than 3 days.
I seriously doubt that Mr Putin will ever shift his focus from India to Pakistan in any significant manner; moreover, the Russian ambassador has gone on record that the Russians are prepared to sell their best fighter, the SU 35 E, along with manufacturing technology and a joint production facility.
Trump will certainly not endear himself to the Indian public by making ridiculous statements that Pakistan has "brilliant people" who make "incredible products." Yes, of course, the Pakistanis do… They make deadly terrorists who kill innocent people while invoking the name of God, and we all know they have been heavily financed for decades by the American administrations along with the CIA.I really would not take Zakharov seriously.
Moreover, I am sceptical that Mr. Modi or Mr. Putin read Substack articles by geopolitical "experts" or that they take the scripted opinions of TV anchors anywhere in the world seriously enough to make policy decisions. I would advise Mr. Modi, for whatever it is worth, to exercise caution when dealing with Western experts of any kind.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia have signalled their tacit acceptance of Eretz Israel in some form with their multi-billion dollar projected defence purchases from the USA. Resettlement of Gaza is now a foregone conclusion, and the new normal in west Asian commerce will be the overland route linking Dammam and Dhahran in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait with Haifa in Israel traversing the old and time tested roadway from Kuwait and Dammam to Amman and Cairo. Likely, the highway will be expanded to 8 Lane, railways will be built in addition, Reverse osmosis plants using Israeli tech on the Saudi Gulf coast with huge pumping facilities will be set up to service the needs of truck drivers along the highway. Troops sourced from Eastern European countries under Israeli supervision will likely guard the highway, with weapon procurements made by Saudi Arabia from the US being dedicated towards this end.
The route will bypass the Red Sea and diminish the importance of the Suez canal, and present immense fiscal opportunity for Qatar, Saudi, UAE, and lots of involvement for Japanese and Korean and German firms in the automotive and road-making sectors. Ports at Khor Fakkan and Sharjah, linked to Dammam via coastal roads avoiding the Rub Al Khali sands, will circumvent the hazards attendant upon an Iranian blockade of Hormuz Strait. Huge pipelines traversing the Syrian desert will connect OIL Wells in the Gulf to Haifa. Iraqi crude will start flowing again through Syrian pipelines to the Mediterranean. Oil tankers will be saved the corrosive effects of high salinity of the Persian Gulf. The Ben Guiron Negev canal, when completed, will render the Suez totally redundant.
Seems Modi and his speaking out of both sides of his mouth have caught up to him. Lavrov gets a bit big when he talks too but he has Putin’s trust or he wouldn’t have kept his position with all his comments over the Ukraine war. India and Pakistan have hated each other for millennia. India is being made to make decisions now. Modi might not be the guy who makes them.
alternative facts don't explain the events in detail and especially they don't preview things; they also have internal contradictions, like for example explaining this phantom pro-bir group as something represented by mr. karaganov, the classical statist school, and now making this a lavrov thing. instead, simply put, lavrov is a byzantine diversionist that uses its legitimacy to alienate different countries. it was germany, now india, and the row continues.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
Majority of political analysts don’t get the relationship between India and Russia, whose ties goes back many decades . Whatever the public bluster the fact remains that Russia has been a reliable partner. Also Russia knows that unlike China or USA / Europe who are backstabers . India is also major buyer and joint developer of defence items of Russia.
Could it be that some intelligent Russians see that Modi's radical, Hindu-nationalist, neoliberal India is inherently unstable? Why should Russia risk an entangling alliance with such a dangerous creature, who just risked a nuclear war to advance his own political ambitions?
Modi's BJP is in political trouble at home. There is serious, and violent, social unrest which goes largely unreported in the Western, and Russian, press. Modi's regime isn't stable. Russia is wise to keep him at arm's length.
BJP is in so much political trouble that they govern 21 out of 31 states and union territories, not to mention the union government.
Also, your talking point about risking nuclear war to advance his own political ambitions is straight out of Pakistan's propaganda playbook. Do better.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.
India has a deep understanding with Russia at the strategic level, and does not take childish immature offence at seemingly Pro-China pronouncements by honourable Mr Sergei Lavrov, or say at Russia's neutrality in the recent Indo-Pak standoff. India is capable of dealing with the menace of terrorist threats from Pakistan on its own via diplomatic means and by strengthening of internal security; and does not expect Russia or anyone else to issue loud ostentatious denunciation of Pakistan simply for massaging its ego. Rabble rousing does not make a physical difference to any state of affairs. It is actually an army of You-Tubers and news channels aligned with Western interests and operating in India which voice disapproval at Russia's positions day in and day out on the flimsiest of pretext and try to portray their outbursts as resentment against what they brand as Russian "betrayal of India". Some channels, such as FirstPost of Palki Sharma Upadhyay notoreity, exhibit manifest anti-Russian bias because of personal dislike of Russia on part of their lead anchors; and casual observers are liable to be led astray into mistaking such channels as being close to Indian policy-making circles and reflective of official opinion because of the fact that these channels have an oversized footprint at Raisina Dialogue and such counterparts of the Valdai club in India. In reality, these news channels and influencers do not reflect official Indian perception or policy even remotely, though it is not denied that their incessant propaganda might exert some subconscious influence on minds of politicians and bureaucrats at the individual level. The analogy of Abby Martin, an anti-Russia correspondent-anchor who had held job at RT news for a long time before her biased reporting on the Ukrainian conflict betrayed her real leanings, will help to elucidate things. As for the Observer Research Foundation, even that is not really a "nationalist" or "patriot" think tank, but for much of its existence it has been an Australian influence projector whose motive has been to influence public policy in India to bring it in alignment with larger Atlanticist geostrategic objectives.
India and Russia feature a deep-rooted "connect" on the people to people level, grounded in civilisational alignment and commonality of ambitions at the social and spiritual level. Reading too much into every nuance is not Indian's cup of tea.
Can you please break up the long paragraph into a few more? My aged eyesight has some problems tracing the lines.
I like many of your points. I wonder what you think about: (1) migration of western companies from China to India, which hence increased the lobbying power of the Western governments and covered up the business influence from Western companies through media channels. (2) I watched FirstPost for a while, then goofed off. What would you suggest for English reporting from India's perspective?
We should be cautious of geopolitical experts who write for a living or are beholden to a party.It makes little sense for Russia to align with Pakistan , which played a significant role in damaging Russia's forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s. I am not exaggerating; Pakistan made every effort to conceal and safeguard OBL; he was finally located by the Americans just a kilometre away from a Pakistani garrison. India, on the other hand, has always relied heavily on Russian logistics, including the highly effective BrahMos missile.
The Indians may already have the latest version, which is even faster. Both Russians and Indians should never forget the moral, psychological, and logistical support that Mr. Breezhnev provided to the Indians in 1971, amidst intense American pressure. This is recent history, and people of my generation dare not forget how the Russians stood by us.
Operation Sindoor was an outstanding success, stunning both the Western media and Western "military experts." No wonder they shy away from commenting on the decimation of 11 Pakistani airbases within minutes. The US needed approximately 40 days of bombing to neutralise the primitive Iraqi air and ground defence system. The Indians did the job in less than 3 days.
I seriously doubt that Mr Putin will ever shift his focus from India to Pakistan in any significant manner; moreover, the Russian ambassador has gone on record that the Russians are prepared to sell their best fighter, the SU 35 E, along with manufacturing technology and a joint production facility.
Trump will certainly not endear himself to the Indian public by making ridiculous statements that Pakistan has "brilliant people" who make "incredible products." Yes, of course, the Pakistanis do… They make deadly terrorists who kill innocent people while invoking the name of God, and we all know they have been heavily financed for decades by the American administrations along with the CIA.I really would not take Zakharov seriously.
Moreover, I am sceptical that Mr. Modi or Mr. Putin read Substack articles by geopolitical "experts" or that they take the scripted opinions of TV anchors anywhere in the world seriously enough to make policy decisions. I would advise Mr. Modi, for whatever it is worth, to exercise caution when dealing with Western experts of any kind.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia have signalled their tacit acceptance of Eretz Israel in some form with their multi-billion dollar projected defence purchases from the USA. Resettlement of Gaza is now a foregone conclusion, and the new normal in west Asian commerce will be the overland route linking Dammam and Dhahran in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait with Haifa in Israel traversing the old and time tested roadway from Kuwait and Dammam to Amman and Cairo. Likely, the highway will be expanded to 8 Lane, railways will be built in addition, Reverse osmosis plants using Israeli tech on the Saudi Gulf coast with huge pumping facilities will be set up to service the needs of truck drivers along the highway. Troops sourced from Eastern European countries under Israeli supervision will likely guard the highway, with weapon procurements made by Saudi Arabia from the US being dedicated towards this end.
The route will bypass the Red Sea and diminish the importance of the Suez canal, and present immense fiscal opportunity for Qatar, Saudi, UAE, and lots of involvement for Japanese and Korean and German firms in the automotive and road-making sectors. Ports at Khor Fakkan and Sharjah, linked to Dammam via coastal roads avoiding the Rub Al Khali sands, will circumvent the hazards attendant upon an Iranian blockade of Hormuz Strait. Huge pipelines traversing the Syrian desert will connect OIL Wells in the Gulf to Haifa. Iraqi crude will start flowing again through Syrian pipelines to the Mediterranean. Oil tankers will be saved the corrosive effects of high salinity of the Persian Gulf. The Ben Guiron Negev canal, when completed, will render the Suez totally redundant.
Seems Modi and his speaking out of both sides of his mouth have caught up to him. Lavrov gets a bit big when he talks too but he has Putin’s trust or he wouldn’t have kept his position with all his comments over the Ukraine war. India and Pakistan have hated each other for millennia. India is being made to make decisions now. Modi might not be the guy who makes them.
alternative facts don't explain the events in detail and especially they don't preview things; they also have internal contradictions, like for example explaining this phantom pro-bir group as something represented by mr. karaganov, the classical statist school, and now making this a lavrov thing. instead, simply put, lavrov is a byzantine diversionist that uses its legitimacy to alienate different countries. it was germany, now india, and the row continues.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
why should any third party get in the middle of this Indo-Pak fiasco? The antiquated cold war notion that everything that happens anywhere on the planet requires the US and Russia to referee was ridiculous during the cold war, and even more absurd now.
Don't get entangled in other people's troubles and tell the antiquated "policy experts" to go fight in every single war themselves.
Majority of political analysts don’t get the relationship between India and Russia, whose ties goes back many decades . Whatever the public bluster the fact remains that Russia has been a reliable partner. Also Russia knows that unlike China or USA / Europe who are backstabers . India is also major buyer and joint developer of defence items of Russia.
Russia cannot afford to pias India or China off at this moment.
Could it be that some intelligent Russians see that Modi's radical, Hindu-nationalist, neoliberal India is inherently unstable? Why should Russia risk an entangling alliance with such a dangerous creature, who just risked a nuclear war to advance his own political ambitions?
Modi's BJP is in political trouble at home. There is serious, and violent, social unrest which goes largely unreported in the Western, and Russian, press. Modi's regime isn't stable. Russia is wise to keep him at arm's length.
BJP is in so much political trouble that they govern 21 out of 31 states and union territories, not to mention the union government.
Also, your talking point about risking nuclear war to advance his own political ambitions is straight out of Pakistan's propaganda playbook. Do better.
Another Eurasian chinese puppet spotted who spread anti India hate just like west.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.
Pakistan played its card in best possible way, keeping itself align with US while having good relations with Russia but cemented its place with China. Good thing with Pakistan is its military, which very professional and never disappoints. Pakistan as security state look after its interests while staying in US block until 2000, after that Pakistan put its bet on China to get self independence in defence manufacturing and technology. Now Pakistan achieved a status where it can take its offensive role, before it always stays as a defensive state because it was relying on US equipment which got restrictions that it can not be used for offensive purposes. Pakistan played a clever move in 1971 when surrendered Bangladesh but in way that India did not realise. What it means? India provided a guarantee for the sovereignty independence state of Bangladesh. Last year things been changed dramatically in Bangladesh when it shifted fully to Pakistan side. Which means now India is been surrounded from all sides by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India was focusing on the Quad alliance. It means India losing its strategic value very rapidly. India needs to think that it can not progress to compete with China unless it won’t have good relations with its neighbours.