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"...China strongly objected to 2021’s AUKUS pact by which the UK and the US agreed to help Australia develop a nuclear-powered submarine fleet...."

Several realities:

1. The AUKUS project (highly unpopular within the Australian electorate) was born of a figment of the imagination of the discredited previous Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

2. Morrison tore up existing contracts for France to provide submarines, without prior notice to either Macron or the Australian Parliament.

3. The AUKUS program will cost Australian taxpayers more than AUD380b with first deliveries projected for the mid 2030s.

4. Currently both UK and US shipyards are either incapable of building these submarines or are far behind the completion of other current projects.

5. The AUKUS submarines will be obsolete to emergent technology years before delivery.

6. Many if not most Australians prefer to address China as a trading nation not an existential threat to our national security.

7. USA has established military intelligence assets (eg, Pine Gap, NT) that are capable of continuous surveillance of Asia and the Western Pacific whilst Australian personnel are not permitted to access these facilities.

8. Pine Gap is a prime target for pre-emptive nuclear ablation. Australia has no functional air defence system.

9. The Australian government is spending AUD100m building accommodation for US military personnel rotations whilst ignoring the plight of destitute homeless Australians.

10. Dissenting Australians have no opportunity to effectively resist these impositions on our sovereignty or future security.

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The fragility of Malacca, Hormuz, Suez, Gibraltar, Panama, Drake, or Magellan must obsess Chinese leaders in their perspective on global trade. Alongside that, the observation of Russia's relative weakness — Russia's inability to be a leading player due to its small population — and the fact that with Russia's resources, China would no longer need anyone else, since its exports to the West represent barely 3% of GDP, and that on low‑value‑added products.

All these factors should point toward a near‑fusion with Russia, overcoming Russian fears of being downgraded by providing firm guarantees of non‑domination over its territory and population.

As for India, I cannot understand China's position on this matter. China would hit the jackpot simply by being reasonable on the issue and abandoning these inept, pointless claims compared to the colossal advantages of resolving the problem.

Just imagine: a firm Russia‑China‑India‑Iran alliance. All of that in connection with an Islamic NATO that would have duped the USA before getting rid of it. What prospects. To think that all of this is blocked over a piece of border and a purely racist attitude...

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