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Paul Jurczak's avatar

I don't believe that decision makers truly believe that open borders are making their countries stronger. The switch from controlled to uncontrolled immigration is dictated by desire of business owners to reduce labor costs and desire of some politicians to weaken nation states on the way to federalized Europe. They are followed by crowds of head in the clouds leftists, who buy their official narrative.

Patrick_UK's avatar

Quite right.

However the business owners argument is, in my view, overstressed.

The main driver is ideological: create a new universal world and a new universal man. And you can't do that without first destroying the old worlds (nations).

schmenger's avatar

i agree on the general europeesation but some biz owners found out that the immigrants are mostly not usable, the main skilles workers come from eastern

europe. as to the commercial interest its well known that most of the think tanks

from rockefeller to the european bilderbergers are interested to controll a homo-

genious consumer society.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Nations are fucking imaginary. Borders don't exist. It's the ruling class using divide and conquer.

Paul Jurczak's avatar

Private property is imaginary, too. I'm guessing that you wouldn't like if someone crossed this imaginary border and took your stuff away.

Yes, the ruling class skillfully used the nation state concept to divide and conquer. They also used art to this effect. Should we ban art?

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Definitely ban private property but you can't actually ban art.

umuntu's avatar

Go back and read your Marx again. If you ever read and understood him.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

I don't give a Fuck about Marx. Lol. I'm an anarchist.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Actually it's more like Russia. Russia has at least 200 different indigenous peoples. It's much more beneficial for everyone to cooperate than to compete. Which is why the ruling class uses divide and conquer. The ruling class has always had class solidarity while they've prevented us from having any.

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Duane McPherson's avatar

Machine translation (for those not fluent in German):

No, that's not it! The entire industry has been outsourced except for the war machine, there are already many unemployed even without the illegals, so you don't need cheap labor. Every migrant means extra money for those at the top of the pyramid. it's all about interest and compound interest, and by bringing in this concentrated crime - intentionally - you drive the Germans away. Because they want to get hold of the assets and the land that never loses its value And through this criminality they are rocking up the complete surveillance. That's all it's about...

LudwigF's avatar

It doesn’t seem ‘extremist’ to hold the view that citizenship should mean more than just possession of a travel document.

Herman's avatar

"These views on nationality are the historical norm for humanity, not the exception, which makes the liberal-globalists the real extremists."

So true. What used to be normal is considered extremist these days, and what used to be extremist has become the new normal...

It feels as if an evil force has bewitched the liberal-globalist elite in the West.

Paulo Aguiar's avatar

It’s not “extremist” to assert that a nation’s identity is rooted in the shared heritage, culture, and historical continuity of its people. It’s common sense and historically the norm. Most countries outside the West still operate on this understanding, recognizing that social cohesion depends on a meaningful degree of cultural continuity.

Germany’s attempt to brand the AfD’s position as beyond the pale says more about the ruling class’s ideological overreach than it does about the party’s platform.

A nation that refuses to define who it is will struggle to define what it stands for.

schmenger's avatar

its save to say that most german politians, being a somewhat negative selection,

have their personal gain, obedience to the party and servitude to united states

in mind.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Nations are fucking imaginary. Humans are ONE SPECIES. Nationalism is another ruling class divide and conquer strategy. The ruling class needs constant war and violence to continue to pillage and mass slaughter us. Humans are the dumbest species on the planet.

LudwigF's avatar

Speak for yourself Jasmine.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

I will😁 You can remain domesticated and willfully blind and ignorant 🤷‍♀️

Visian's avatar

You sound doomed to live in a society full of people who don’t share basic values… a definition of hell if there ever was one.

schmenger's avatar

he naively writes the " Liberal elites " suggesting the watering down of traditional

culture and supporting the alien, mainly muslim immigration.

the root of this well known as internationalization forced by big industry and banks.

germany is the cultural weekest country in the west due to ongoing brainwashing

with the hitler deeds as main reason. some cynics place the german gvt to tel aviv.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Yes it is extremist. There's NO SUCH THING AS RACE. Humans are one species. This is another divide and conquer strategy by the ruling class. Gin up hatred of the "other." Please don't fall for it.

Andrew Korybko's avatar

There's nothing about so-called "race" in my analysis, just cultures, which are distinct but nevertheless also evolve with time. A Peruvian, for example, is different than a Pole, just like a Russian is different than a Rwandan. It has nothing to do with "race", only culture, that's the point being made by the AfD and which is also embraced by Russia's ruling party.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Cultures don't exist either 🤣 Divide and conquer. Humans are

ONE SPECIES. Do European cats have a different culture verses American cats? See how silly that sounds? As long as we keep buying the ruling class's bullshit, we'll keep being ruled by them. Myself, fuck them and fuck the system😤

Kurvingrad's avatar

"Do European cats have a different culture verses American cats?"

This is a spectacularly good sophism, immaculate I may say as it is well hidden and not easily observed. Kudos (not being sarcastic here). I am copying this into my collection of excellent sophisms.

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Cats do not have a culture in the same sense as humans. Or perhaps their culture is of basic instinct type, judging by which all humans are the same. But we have something else too in human culture, unrelated to basic instinct.

𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮 (𝓜)'s avatar

Humans don't either🤣 Humans are GREAT APES. We should be living like our bonobo cousins. Humans aren't special or superior. Humans are actually the dumbest species on the planet.

Ladyc's avatar

Actually the genetic differences between major groups of humans are at a greater distance than the genetic differences between dogs (canis familiaris) and wolves (canis lupus). Some groups of humans have neanderthaal DNA, others Denisovian DNA, while others carry genes from a relative of Homo Erectus. It doesn’t mean we should hate one another for our differences, but it’s possible that who we are culturally is reinforced by different DNA, and if so who we are is not as much a conscious choice as formerly thought.

Ladyc's avatar

This is why I don’t believe Trump is going to take non-democratic Europe’s side and support Ukraine against Russia and any ‘harsh’ rhetoric against Russia will be watered down in actions. The real threat to the US is that the European elites meddle in US elections from behind the scenes and will just incubate until 2028 unless they are rooted out now. Russia is not a significant threat to the US unless the US makes it so deliberately- change my mind.

A Skeptic's avatar

Thanks for your great work Andrew!

We've shared the link on our daily report.

A Skeptic War Reports

https://askeptic.substack.com/

Feral Finster's avatar

O please.

The AfD leaders could personally subject migrant children to sadistic Mengele-style medical experiments and nobody would raise a peep, as long as the AfD were needed to maintain American Hegemony over europe in general and the War On Russia in aprticular.

James Schwartz's avatar

Preach Andrew! Trump signed an executive order proclaiming English as the national language and it’s a start. The drivers license test here in my home state comes in almost 30 different languages and dialects. That’s crazy. When immigrants came to the US back in the 1900’s they were eager to assimilate. That’s no longer the case. Now, they speak their home language in their homes and can be taught in said language at schools. Trump is trying to end all of that. Nationality is important to the success of the country. Well said. Another banger Andrew.

Kurvingrad's avatar

Now that US just another extreme of Bidenites, just a different end of spectrum.

Driving test in 100 languages, including clingon is not anti-national. Just practical thing of the 21. Century. As long as it is first offered in official language.

I would want to assimilate with US civilisation in 1900. In 2020's this is only better than assimilation into Swedish, Australian or Canadian cultures which are at the bottom of the list.

Trump wanted to spit at wokies pushing for disuse of English as some sort of wokies wicked ideas of equality of outcome. He is a realtor, he cares only for one nation of green $ and cents.

UNA Harpenden's avatar

I think most immigrants, educated or not, would happily agree to live in a nation where the national culture is different to theirs and where they could build an inclusive multicultural society and nation together, preserving the key elements of all cultures and enhancing the cultural life of future generations.

The foundational culture would always have to be the national culture, e.g. the British national culture in the UK or the German national culture in Germany. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as there is a live and let live atmosphere, such as those you find in Asian nations.

UNA Harpenden's avatar

There may be a minor difference between AfD's and the Russian vision of culture, but AfD's sounds a bit racist to me compared to Russia's, because Russia's starts with equality before emphasizing the national culture, whereas AfD's starts with the difference with immigrants and then tries to crawl back trying to sound inclusive.

I think most immigrants, educated or not, would happily agree to live in a nation where the national culture is different to theirs and where they could build an inclusive multicultural society and nation together, preserving the key elements of all cultures and enhancing the cultural life of future generations.

The foundational culture would always have to be the national culture, e.g. the British national culture in the UK or the German national culture in Germany. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as there is a live and let live atmosphere, such as those you find in Asian nations.

Herman's avatar

You sound like a reasonable person. However, exactly which Asian nations do you mean where one can find a "live and let live atmosphere"?

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I ran wat waz written above through ze translator machine and translation says:

"my mutter has hairy legz and my neighbour daughter stands when she takes ze piss"

I think someone hacked my Chinese AI translator.

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Andrew Korybko's avatar

Literally LOL! Stay mad, you're just triggered that Russia already implements what the AfD only wishes it could! Before you go, I want you to condemn United Russia as a "fascist Zionist party" too, will you or will you remain ideologically inconsistent like most of your ilk?

Andrew Korybko's avatar

Imagine the chutzpah to call a Pole a "fascist" on Victory Day, knowing that around 1/6th of Poles were genocided by the Nazis, you people have absolutely no shame.

Paul Jurczak's avatar

Fascist Zionist? AfD? I'm confused.

barnabus's avatar

Islamogauchists (eg Corbyn and Galloway in UK, Melenchon in France, Ilhan Omar in the uSA) obviously hate Israel, while many in AFD consider it a model national state. Hence Gregor McIntosh's comment.

Kurvingrad's avatar

Lol, AfD is like Schroedinger's cat ( and I am not sarcastic here).

It's both extreme and reasonable at the same time.

Never trust Greek coming with gifts and krauts "just protecting their lebensraum and nothing more, cross my heart-hope to die"

barnabus's avatar

You don't protect lebensraum - you conquer lebensraum, just to be nitpicky. Anyway, AFD doesn't want to conquer lebensraum. That conversation was more going along the nationalist wing of CDU/CSU before mid-1960s, and of course in the NPD.

Kurvingrad's avatar

That's how it always start with krauts.... seemingly benign.

barnabus's avatar

Orange Revolutions everywhere - including Ukraine - were started by Yankies, not Krauts

schmenger's avatar

do you mean with fascist zionist party the ruling russian one?

the afd is conservative and certainly not zionistic.

umuntu's avatar

They do support Israel. They do support armament. Recently they are walking back on support for Russia. Just sayin'.