Putin might accept Trump’s invitation to participate in order to avoid offending him and not lose a seat at the table where members provide input on US policy towards settling various conflicts.
I think both President Putin and Indian PM Modi will join only to avoid further bizarre behaviour from DT. In any case Modi will not want to be anywhere where Munir is. The money is a bribe DT is asking for - and Kuchner is possibly the conduit to route it into various absurd white elephant " construction" projects in Gaza!
I agree, Trump Inc. will definitely find a way to profit from rebuilding Gaza, while Modi would probably designate a representative in his place (per the right to do so in the charter).
No-one needs construction in Gaza before demilitarization and denazification. It's the same as for Ukraine. Same issue. Construction before demilitarization will just create another human shield.
Interesting further “meat on the bones” on this for me thank you.
In the UK the sole focus is rather on Tony Blair and I admit with his track record of war, covid passports, digital ID etc that does raise fear rather than hope and I don’t mean just for the “Gaza rebuilding” but us all.
When the word PEACE are used , RUSSIA must be there. Russia can add its influence to world peace. Trump can now say that Russia is on his side. GOOD for Trump & Putin . .
For those of us scratching our heads over, “Trump’s companies have a track record of tangible accomplishments”, could you elaborate on some of these? Aside from his mafia joint venture with the Waldman rink in Central Park, I’m struggling to come up with anything “tangible”.
He's had a handful. 1978-1980 he redeveloped the Commodore Hotel on East 42nd Street near Grand Central Terminal into a Grand Hyatt hotel. Sold it around 1994 and made out well (bought a few thousand televisions from Russian monsters early 1980s).
His original Trump Tower at 57th and 5th Avenue was profitable. Opened in 1983. More than a handful of units sold to Russians for cash - even then.
His Plaza Hotel acquisition was far more typical. Trump bought the iconic Plaza Hotel for ~$405M in 1988 - a trophy real estate asset. Revenue never covered payments on the heavy debt tied to the purchase. By 1992, Trump’s holding company for the hotel filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and his banks took a major ownership stake as part of a debt restructuring. In 1995 he agreed to sell The Plaza to a group including Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and Singapore’s CDL International Hotels for about $325 million. His lenders were never made whole, but I'm sure he and wife (then ex) Ivanka pulled plenty of cash out.
There have been a number of longform investigations into this over the last decade. New York Times, WSJ, Bloomberg (I think), ProPublica. NYT git their hands on about 8 years worth of his tax returns.
Trump has a LONG track record of dozens of failed companies and ventures. Basically many "bust outs."
Create or take over a legitimate business or organization, run up massive debt, loot it, then obtain rescue funding or abandon it to collapse.
In addition to looting investor funds, he's licensed use of his name for other developers' projects - and steaks, vodka, guitars, watches, trinkets of all types sold on Home Shopping Network and QVC, a fraudulent "University" (successfully sued for $25M on that) - His family defrauded their own "Trump" children's cancer charity for several million dollars.
for a good comparison, people who say this should provide a detailed track of their life. there are people with justified grievances against trump, like the ice victims, although you never know whom to blame - himself, (dark) maga, deep state, us as a whole, the western world. then there are dudes that want to remove him because they are even more radical, speedier, more manipulative and thus less susceptible to critics.
The U N doesn’t get things done because for decades the Americans haven’t wanted it to get things done. They have for decades, vetted every significant bureaucratic position to ensure appointees are pro-American. That’s why so many Mickey Mouse officials hold important jobs in the organisation.
Ultimately, the U.S, wants to get rid of the UN Security Council and replace it with this so called Peace Board, to be run by Trump, for Trump, which will act unilaterally anywhere, and at any time, in its unfettered pursuit of global hegemony, free of vetoes by his adversaries.
If Russia does join, this will not signal strategy, but abject capitulation. In which case, we can all say goodbye to BRICS, the SCO and the BRI, and hello to world vassalage.
UN doesn't get things done because the 3rd world has absolute majority there. Nothing to do with USA or Russia. The UN Security council with US veto there is the only thing that prevents the UN building in NYC from being demolished.
I don't accept ad hominem attacks, but I'm in a good mood so I'll (likely foolishly) give you another chance, though you'll be immediately blocked if you spit in my face and disrespect me again.
I proudly stand by what I wrote; his companies have built and managed a lot of successful projects, and bankruptcy isn't always a sign of failure, but rather is sometimes exploited as for tax and other purposes.
Anyhow, you can think whatever you want Trump applying the Mar-a-Lago/Trump Inc. model to the Board of Peace, but please keep it respectful, that's all that I ask. Don't lose control of your emotions next time, it's very weak and reflects poorly upon you.
Well it's easy to build a building if you don't have to make a profit :) And then comes bankruptcy after.
You would have to look at the real estate empire he inherited versus what he did with it. Keep in mind that the last 50 years in America has been a very intense asset inflation event where you could own almost any real estate and make a fortune. Ever since Covid, times have changed though. Really it was the interest rates going up that ended the real estate boom.
Had Trump simply taken the money he borrowed from his father and bought an S&P 500 index fund and reinvested the proceeds, he'd be richer than he is today.
Yep - As of about 2024. But in the last 12 months his documented grifts alone (World Liberty Financial and a few Gulf development deals) have brought in something like $4B - and that's before all of the crypto fuckery hecabd the kids are engaged in.
I don't need to tolerate people calling me an "idiot". I used to have lots of tolerance for verbal abuse because it doesn't bother me personally, but I learned that it emboldened others (like the "broken windows theory": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory) and ultimately made genuine discourse under my threads (in this case under my X posts) impossible.
If I let him personally attack me as an "idiot" with impunity, it risks emboldening others, and so on and so forth, and the next thing you know, this page will be colonized by "NAFO" and "NAFO"-like likes. I won't allow that to happen. Nobody needs to tolerate unprovoked personal abuse. I'm not like these other Alt-Media folks, I won't let people spit on me over and over again.
This is just a backhanded way to legitimize Israel and its land theft. Any nation that joins this absurdity is run by idiots as it subordinate them to ZioAmerica. Beyond absurd for Putin to even consider this.
I don’t believe this so called-Board of Peace will accomplish much good if Tony Blair is involved.. Also, Trump has no understanding of how to develop a nation. He only wants to make money. I don’t believe he is really concerned about the welfare of Palestinians. Money does not equal development.
The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum. To sit on a couch of a crazy man (whose rule is covered in blood, who kills for fun, who absolutely disregards international law, who attacks countries on regular basis) on price of BILLION DOLLARS per invite... and to call that "Board of Peace" IS JUST PURE INSANITY. I knew already that most of today politicians are $¢um but integrity and prestige of the people that are willing to sit on trumps psycho couch will irreversibly hit rock bottom. After all, these are the times of disillusionment.
Hard to take this idea or your assessment of it very seriously.. But it's a sign of the times alright.
Putin and Modi et al will publicly not completely diss the idea... But that will be rather like patting a dangerous madman on the head in order to appease him...
A madman would be willing to " to press the button", there is no way in high heaven Trump is willing to live in a cramped bunker underground for the remainder of his days. You cant spend your money in a nuclear wasteland. Hes just bluffing and the other nations are idiots for falling for it.
Rebuild Gaza = Turn it into a new West Bank under American/Israeli control where the Palestinian citizens will be second-class citizens if they are allowed to stay at all.
This is simply a way to give international legitimacy to the continuing ethnic cleansing in Gaza. (Can't have any more war crimes charges if an international board approved the plan.)
It's no different than electing Congress in the US but they have no real authority except to vote for the decrees of the intelligence agencies. But it makes the American people complicit in the results.
Russia joining this board will be seen by many as endorsing the ethnic cleansing that this board will perpetrate.
I think both President Putin and Indian PM Modi will join only to avoid further bizarre behaviour from DT. In any case Modi will not want to be anywhere where Munir is. The money is a bribe DT is asking for - and Kuchner is possibly the conduit to route it into various absurd white elephant " construction" projects in Gaza!
I agree, Trump Inc. will definitely find a way to profit from rebuilding Gaza, while Modi would probably designate a representative in his place (per the right to do so in the charter).
No-one needs construction in Gaza before demilitarization and denazification. It's the same as for Ukraine. Same issue. Construction before demilitarization will just create another human shield.
Interesting further “meat on the bones” on this for me thank you.
In the UK the sole focus is rather on Tony Blair and I admit with his track record of war, covid passports, digital ID etc that does raise fear rather than hope and I don’t mean just for the “Gaza rebuilding” but us all.
When the word PEACE are used , RUSSIA must be there. Russia can add its influence to world peace. Trump can now say that Russia is on his side. GOOD for Trump & Putin . .
For those of us scratching our heads over, “Trump’s companies have a track record of tangible accomplishments”, could you elaborate on some of these? Aside from his mafia joint venture with the Waldman rink in Central Park, I’m struggling to come up with anything “tangible”.
He's had a handful. 1978-1980 he redeveloped the Commodore Hotel on East 42nd Street near Grand Central Terminal into a Grand Hyatt hotel. Sold it around 1994 and made out well (bought a few thousand televisions from Russian monsters early 1980s).
His original Trump Tower at 57th and 5th Avenue was profitable. Opened in 1983. More than a handful of units sold to Russians for cash - even then.
His Plaza Hotel acquisition was far more typical. Trump bought the iconic Plaza Hotel for ~$405M in 1988 - a trophy real estate asset. Revenue never covered payments on the heavy debt tied to the purchase. By 1992, Trump’s holding company for the hotel filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and his banks took a major ownership stake as part of a debt restructuring. In 1995 he agreed to sell The Plaza to a group including Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and Singapore’s CDL International Hotels for about $325 million. His lenders were never made whole, but I'm sure he and wife (then ex) Ivanka pulled plenty of cash out.
There have been a number of longform investigations into this over the last decade. New York Times, WSJ, Bloomberg (I think), ProPublica. NYT git their hands on about 8 years worth of his tax returns.
Trump has a LONG track record of dozens of failed companies and ventures. Basically many "bust outs."
Create or take over a legitimate business or organization, run up massive debt, loot it, then obtain rescue funding or abandon it to collapse.
In addition to looting investor funds, he's licensed use of his name for other developers' projects - and steaks, vodka, guitars, watches, trinkets of all types sold on Home Shopping Network and QVC, a fraudulent "University" (successfully sued for $25M on that) - His family defrauded their own "Trump" children's cancer charity for several million dollars.
for a good comparison, people who say this should provide a detailed track of their life. there are people with justified grievances against trump, like the ice victims, although you never know whom to blame - himself, (dark) maga, deep state, us as a whole, the western world. then there are dudes that want to remove him because they are even more radical, speedier, more manipulative and thus less susceptible to critics.
The U N doesn’t get things done because for decades the Americans haven’t wanted it to get things done. They have for decades, vetted every significant bureaucratic position to ensure appointees are pro-American. That’s why so many Mickey Mouse officials hold important jobs in the organisation.
Ultimately, the U.S, wants to get rid of the UN Security Council and replace it with this so called Peace Board, to be run by Trump, for Trump, which will act unilaterally anywhere, and at any time, in its unfettered pursuit of global hegemony, free of vetoes by his adversaries.
If Russia does join, this will not signal strategy, but abject capitulation. In which case, we can all say goodbye to BRICS, the SCO and the BRI, and hello to world vassalage.
" The U N doesn’t get things done because for decades the Americans haven’t wanted it to get things done. "
Straight to the point.
UN doesn't get things done because the 3rd world has absolute majority there. Nothing to do with USA or Russia. The UN Security council with US veto there is the only thing that prevents the UN building in NYC from being demolished.
This Trump's whil just deserve disdain and contempt
If Russia goes with this ridiculous and scandalous trumpery, it would be as stupid as deliberately agreeing the death kiss.
Did you use the words accomplishments & Trump’s companies is the same sentence? RU an Idiot? (Replace Accomplishments With Bankruptcies Next Time)!
I don't accept ad hominem attacks, but I'm in a good mood so I'll (likely foolishly) give you another chance, though you'll be immediately blocked if you spit in my face and disrespect me again.
I proudly stand by what I wrote; his companies have built and managed a lot of successful projects, and bankruptcy isn't always a sign of failure, but rather is sometimes exploited as for tax and other purposes.
Anyhow, you can think whatever you want Trump applying the Mar-a-Lago/Trump Inc. model to the Board of Peace, but please keep it respectful, that's all that I ask. Don't lose control of your emotions next time, it's very weak and reflects poorly upon you.
Well it's easy to build a building if you don't have to make a profit :) And then comes bankruptcy after.
You would have to look at the real estate empire he inherited versus what he did with it. Keep in mind that the last 50 years in America has been a very intense asset inflation event where you could own almost any real estate and make a fortune. Ever since Covid, times have changed though. Really it was the interest rates going up that ended the real estate boom.
Had Trump simply taken the money he borrowed from his father and bought an S&P 500 index fund and reinvested the proceeds, he'd be richer than he is today.
Yep - As of about 2024. But in the last 12 months his documented grifts alone (World Liberty Financial and a few Gulf development deals) have brought in something like $4B - and that's before all of the crypto fuckery hecabd the kids are engaged in.
That was hardly spitting in your face, Andrew.. Come on, let's not be so precious. We are after all speaking of a narcissistic gangster...
The devising of tax avoidance strategies had little to do with Trump's own expertise...which remain obscure, to say the least...
I don't need to tolerate people calling me an "idiot". I used to have lots of tolerance for verbal abuse because it doesn't bother me personally, but I learned that it emboldened others (like the "broken windows theory": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory) and ultimately made genuine discourse under my threads (in this case under my X posts) impossible.
If I let him personally attack me as an "idiot" with impunity, it risks emboldening others, and so on and so forth, and the next thing you know, this page will be colonized by "NAFO" and "NAFO"-like likes. I won't allow that to happen. Nobody needs to tolerate unprovoked personal abuse. I'm not like these other Alt-Media folks, I won't let people spit on me over and over again.
I post shit that puts me on government watchlists & this guy thinks I’m gonna worry if he blocks me! lol
Trump hasn't built a development project in long time. Mostly his business activity focuses on branding and scamming (TrumpCoin) these days.
Billionaires filling their greedy pockets are NOT accomplishments!
This is just a backhanded way to legitimize Israel and its land theft. Any nation that joins this absurdity is run by idiots as it subordinate them to ZioAmerica. Beyond absurd for Putin to even consider this.
I don’t believe this so called-Board of Peace will accomplish much good if Tony Blair is involved.. Also, Trump has no understanding of how to develop a nation. He only wants to make money. I don’t believe he is really concerned about the welfare of Palestinians. Money does not equal development.
The goal is not to accomplish good. The goal is to accomplish much, much evil but with an air of legitimacy.
The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum. To sit on a couch of a crazy man (whose rule is covered in blood, who kills for fun, who absolutely disregards international law, who attacks countries on regular basis) on price of BILLION DOLLARS per invite... and to call that "Board of Peace" IS JUST PURE INSANITY. I knew already that most of today politicians are $¢um but integrity and prestige of the people that are willing to sit on trumps psycho couch will irreversibly hit rock bottom. After all, these are the times of disillusionment.
Hard to take this idea or your assessment of it very seriously.. But it's a sign of the times alright.
Putin and Modi et al will publicly not completely diss the idea... But that will be rather like patting a dangerous madman on the head in order to appease him...
A madman would be willing to " to press the button", there is no way in high heaven Trump is willing to live in a cramped bunker underground for the remainder of his days. You cant spend your money in a nuclear wasteland. Hes just bluffing and the other nations are idiots for falling for it.
Rebuild Gaza = Turn it into a new West Bank under American/Israeli control where the Palestinian citizens will be second-class citizens if they are allowed to stay at all.
This is simply a way to give international legitimacy to the continuing ethnic cleansing in Gaza. (Can't have any more war crimes charges if an international board approved the plan.)
It's no different than electing Congress in the US but they have no real authority except to vote for the decrees of the intelligence agencies. But it makes the American people complicit in the results.
Russia joining this board will be seen by many as endorsing the ethnic cleansing that this board will perpetrate.