It arguably dealt irreparable damage to the bloc’s reputation as a safe location in which foreigners the world over could store and invest their financial assets after influential members left no doubt about their desire to steal its assets, thus signaling that they might try to steal other countries’ one day too.
I have the impression that some of these so-called European leaders are only one-shots. They come to power, brush aside all their promises to their voters, and do what they are supposed to do in the interests of their overlords. They don't care about being re-elected. After their careers, they will be rewarded with some fat job in international or Atlantic institutions.
Kallas and Von der Leyen are/were NOT ELECTED by anyone, only appointed. As such, they have NO PROMISES to keep to any voters. None. The farce of the system in Europe.
Apart from Britain's historical enmity, I'm baffled to why Europe is so psychotically in support of Ukr. Here are possibilities I can come up with. I wish someone could enlighten me.
1/ Europe in collusion with US neocons who want to bring Ukraine to a point at which Russia can be kept busy while US focus goes eastward.
2/ Europe wants a war that brings in the US to both degrade American power from overstretch and for the chance to rug pull their bond markets and do an economic reboot;
3/ Europe must keep its loans to Ukraine afloat (one paying off the prior) because default would destroy some oligarch or trigger financial contagion;
4/ Germany is angry about the gutting of its economy but Europe wants to keep Germany close to prevent a future alliance with Russia;
5/ Europe wants to maintain US spending on NATO and NATO installations since this spending is important to their economies.
It just seems very odd that Europe is behaving so in opposition to what would seem its self interest.
I also have wondered why so many western leaders are married to Kyiv and President Zelensky. Does President Zelensky have something over them?
Is it drug trafficking? Human trafficking? Body part trafficking? Bio-labs? Pedo stuff?
Who knows but it may be something corrupt.
Why at this time anyone wants to hand over great sums of money to Kyiv after all the corruption scandals is baffling as well. Maybe a corruption scandal will boot President Zelensky out of power. I'm sure the west had a plan for this all along. They'll throw him under the bus at some point I reckon.
Still wondering if at some point the Ukrainian Army has enough of fighting for a worse outcome and pulls back to Kyiv and removes President Zelensky. One way or another. I wonder if the Azov types will defend Kyiv/President Zelensky against rebelling Army units. I say fighting for a worse outcome as I think they've long passed the fighting for nothing standard.
It is not the Ukrainians alone that are fighting for Nato but plenty of rebadged as legion French British US Polish German Belgian armymen + plenty of fighters from the west's Sunni Islamic axis so they can fight on endlessly as far as they want. Moreover if the US wants it can stop the war today. US is trying to push Putin into an unfavourable deal over Russias resources by US monopolies and access to the Artic and until Putin keels over it will continue this absurd negotiations dance. Russia at the same time understands that its civil technology is very backward and it needs US tech transfer to reinvigorate that sector if at all the US allows that or acts in good faith. Remember never trust a Mason.
It is already heavily dependent on China for that I believe Russian motive is to hedge against being too reliant on China. For eg: Chinese semiconductors from major firms over there and hardware products like servers are unbranded in China and rebranded in Russia and sold as they are over the border across Vladivostok where the US can't interfere.
-1/Russia has now become the bulwark of traditional moral values, and that's the reason why it is so hated by our morally flexible, woke liberal elite.
-2/Big money wants to lay hands on Russia's natural riches, as it was allowed to do under Yeltsin. Putin made an end to the plunder. That is why he is so disliked.
-3/The Jews, who were one of the pillars of the Soviet regime under Lenin and at first under Stalin, were slowly driven out of power during WWII, and they want to take revenge. Think of the likes of Victoria Nuland. (BTW: that the Soviet Jews were driven out of power seems to be the reason that the Cold War came into being. As a consequence, their fellow believers who were in charge on the other side of the Atlantic had no reason anymore to be on good terms with the Soviets.)
Whether in Europe or the USA, you will observe that most of the time it are people belonging to one of these three groups who are the most fanatical Russia-haters.
Please, don't say "European strategy", say rather " British strategy". For centuries, UK gets others do its wars. French and Dutch against Spanish empire, Prussia and Dutch against France, Russians against French, French against Russians, French against Germans( 3 times).
No, none of the reasons 1-5 apply. Western Europe is seized by the wrong set of ideas - what Israelis have learned to call "conceptsia". In the European case, the conceptsia is that the March of "Liberal Democracy" is unstoppable. The idea originated at the end of the cold war, 1989-1991. In Europe, there has been in fact an unstoppable wave that piece for piece brought EU and NATO to the borders of Russia, Ukraine and Belorus. But now it has stopped. The political machine in W Europe is however too invested in this project to reassess whether it works.
It's not the first time this happens in history. The expansion of the Roman empire at some point came to the end, stopped by the Persians and the Germanic tribes in 2-5th century CE.
The expansion of Christendom was checked by the rise of Islam in the 7th century.
The expansion of Communism run out of steam in the 1940s-1970s, before collapsing in late 1980s.
Now the expansion of EU and NATO has run into insurmountable obstacles.
All of these expansions for a long time thought they are unstoppable. But at some point...
We go through this "Will they won't they?" song and dance every couple of months. Like any bad soap opera, with a couple of fits and starts. Remember The Great F-16 Saga? "Release The Leopards?"
At every stage, escalation is seen as reckless, unpopular and bringing WWIII that much closer. The West escalates anyway.
In this european lunatics game, what is absolutely not understandable is the behaviour of Germany. Playing, in the same time, against Russia and Trump's USA is puzzling.
Either Germany work for its future, a crushing strong economy based on cheap russian energy.
Either it is submitted to US requirements and we can understand a suicide of german slave.
But seemingly, Germany plays alone, against its own interests, against its US master, against Russia which is the provider of the cheapest energy.
In trying to crush, for years now, its European partnairs and submit them to their Bismarckian Chimera, they also play against UE.
Is Germany periodically infected by virus of dementia?
Take care Germany, the next time you'll set Europe to blood and fire, there will be no mercy for you.
The strange behaviour of the German elite is actually quite easy to explain: they don't work for Germany, but for the interests of others, after which they are rewarded with fat jobs in international or Atlantic institutions.
How can conscientious European citizens legally un-seat the likes of van der Leyden, Merz, Macron and other "leaders" who are acting so egregiously in relation to foreign Russian assets?
You're right. Nobody wanted war in France and UK in 1939. But our morons declared war to Germany because they feared it would become to big and powerful...
They declared war, didn't move, were severely beaten in 1940 and lost everything, becoming US colonies.
US were, as usual, smart vultures. They waited France was beaten, British strangeled and Germans seemingly beaten by USSR to enter really in the danse.
Brillant.
They put their feet in Africa when Montgomery had already beaten Rommel and Badoglio. And their entered Sicile after Stalingrad and in the middle of battle of Kursk where Russians fought with the best and 95% of german army.
They were saved in Normandy by the operation Bagration launched by Russians the 21th June 44 when allies stonewalled in front of the weakest of german army.
The Americans did not want to get involved in WWI, nor WWII, but european (largely british, to be fair) machinations mousetrapped them into both wars.
For that matter, the point of NATO was famously "to keep the Americans in, the germans down, the Russians out".
Then came Yugoslavia. The europeans screamed for years that "America Must Do Something!" but the Americans only got involved in order to distract the public from Bill Clinton's zipper problem.
Of course, 1956 is the counterexample. The Americans refused to endorse the anglo-french-Israeli war and the british and french were forced to slink back to their lairs, there to scheme and plot some more.
For WW2, USA wanted a war with Japan. They did all they could to force Japanese to attack them.
And it's not european shenanigans that involved USA against Germans. It's Hitler who declared war to USA to seduce Japanese and invite them to declare war to USSR.
Missed.
And in Yougoslavie, in 1995, 4 years before the official war against Serbia, it's US F15 which saved the ass of Croatian milicias in bombing Serbian army. In Yougoslavia, Germany was the tool of USA. It wanted to take its vassal back and USA began to take advantage of russian weakness to destroy it traditional allies network.
Churchill certainly did everything he could to entice the Americans into entering wwii.
The Yugoslav Wars had been going on for some years to european caterwauling and general ineffectiveness before the Americans finally got involved, as you recognize.
The Europeans have been involved in global piracy since the Merovingians and Venetians took control of their vulgar parody of church called Roman Catholicism and that is what made them rich. Their hunting dogs the Franks started it with the sack and loot of Constantinople. They will continue to do it until the Eurasian world order achieves critical mass and scale by around 2100-2150. But they are planning the mother of all wars to prevent that eventuality from happening.
You can only do something like this once before everyone else wises up, so the European leaders were both desperate and thinking short term.
I have the impression that some of these so-called European leaders are only one-shots. They come to power, brush aside all their promises to their voters, and do what they are supposed to do in the interests of their overlords. They don't care about being re-elected. After their careers, they will be rewarded with some fat job in international or Atlantic institutions.
Kallas and Von der Leyen are/were NOT ELECTED by anyone, only appointed. As such, they have NO PROMISES to keep to any voters. None. The farce of the system in Europe.
You are right. Actually I meant: leaders of certain European countries.
All of EU's anti Russian has and will continue to NAUGHT. Russia wins all the time.
Apart from Britain's historical enmity, I'm baffled to why Europe is so psychotically in support of Ukr. Here are possibilities I can come up with. I wish someone could enlighten me.
1/ Europe in collusion with US neocons who want to bring Ukraine to a point at which Russia can be kept busy while US focus goes eastward.
2/ Europe wants a war that brings in the US to both degrade American power from overstretch and for the chance to rug pull their bond markets and do an economic reboot;
3/ Europe must keep its loans to Ukraine afloat (one paying off the prior) because default would destroy some oligarch or trigger financial contagion;
4/ Germany is angry about the gutting of its economy but Europe wants to keep Germany close to prevent a future alliance with Russia;
5/ Europe wants to maintain US spending on NATO and NATO installations since this spending is important to their economies.
It just seems very odd that Europe is behaving so in opposition to what would seem its self interest.
I also have wondered why so many western leaders are married to Kyiv and President Zelensky. Does President Zelensky have something over them?
Is it drug trafficking? Human trafficking? Body part trafficking? Bio-labs? Pedo stuff?
Who knows but it may be something corrupt.
Why at this time anyone wants to hand over great sums of money to Kyiv after all the corruption scandals is baffling as well. Maybe a corruption scandal will boot President Zelensky out of power. I'm sure the west had a plan for this all along. They'll throw him under the bus at some point I reckon.
Still wondering if at some point the Ukrainian Army has enough of fighting for a worse outcome and pulls back to Kyiv and removes President Zelensky. One way or another. I wonder if the Azov types will defend Kyiv/President Zelensky against rebelling Army units. I say fighting for a worse outcome as I think they've long passed the fighting for nothing standard.
Cheers
It is not the Ukrainians alone that are fighting for Nato but plenty of rebadged as legion French British US Polish German Belgian armymen + plenty of fighters from the west's Sunni Islamic axis so they can fight on endlessly as far as they want. Moreover if the US wants it can stop the war today. US is trying to push Putin into an unfavourable deal over Russias resources by US monopolies and access to the Artic and until Putin keels over it will continue this absurd negotiations dance. Russia at the same time understands that its civil technology is very backward and it needs US tech transfer to reinvigorate that sector if at all the US allows that or acts in good faith. Remember never trust a Mason.
I wonder if Russia can get that tech transfer from China?
Or at least some of it. AI.
It is already heavily dependent on China for that I believe Russian motive is to hedge against being too reliant on China. For eg: Chinese semiconductors from major firms over there and hardware products like servers are unbranded in China and rebranded in Russia and sold as they are over the border across Vladivostok where the US can't interfere.
If Russian civil technology were in fact that backward, they would be losing to the Ukrainians who are supplied by the US and W Europe.
Genius! Do you understand the difference between civil technology and defence technology?
Lol - there is no difference. Cars = tanks = airplanes = drones.
My two cents:
-1/Russia has now become the bulwark of traditional moral values, and that's the reason why it is so hated by our morally flexible, woke liberal elite.
-2/Big money wants to lay hands on Russia's natural riches, as it was allowed to do under Yeltsin. Putin made an end to the plunder. That is why he is so disliked.
-3/The Jews, who were one of the pillars of the Soviet regime under Lenin and at first under Stalin, were slowly driven out of power during WWII, and they want to take revenge. Think of the likes of Victoria Nuland. (BTW: that the Soviet Jews were driven out of power seems to be the reason that the Cold War came into being. As a consequence, their fellow believers who were in charge on the other side of the Atlantic had no reason anymore to be on good terms with the Soviets.)
Whether in Europe or the USA, you will observe that most of the time it are people belonging to one of these three groups who are the most fanatical Russia-haters.
Good comment Herman , you are right.
Because european strategy since 1917 has been to get Americans to do their fighting for them.
Because they already have sunk so much reputational and other capital into Ukraine that they cannot turn back now.
Please, don't say "European strategy", say rather " British strategy". For centuries, UK gets others do its wars. French and Dutch against Spanish empire, Prussia and Dutch against France, Russians against French, French against Russians, French against Germans( 3 times).
Britain is a part of europe. Moreover, the french and others gladly participated in this strategy.
Hell, don't beat yourself up. The strategy worked.
No, none of the reasons 1-5 apply. Western Europe is seized by the wrong set of ideas - what Israelis have learned to call "conceptsia". In the European case, the conceptsia is that the March of "Liberal Democracy" is unstoppable. The idea originated at the end of the cold war, 1989-1991. In Europe, there has been in fact an unstoppable wave that piece for piece brought EU and NATO to the borders of Russia, Ukraine and Belorus. But now it has stopped. The political machine in W Europe is however too invested in this project to reassess whether it works.
It's not the first time this happens in history. The expansion of the Roman empire at some point came to the end, stopped by the Persians and the Germanic tribes in 2-5th century CE.
The expansion of Christendom was checked by the rise of Islam in the 7th century.
The expansion of Communism run out of steam in the 1940s-1970s, before collapsing in late 1980s.
Now the expansion of EU and NATO has run into insurmountable obstacles.
All of these expansions for a long time thought they are unstoppable. But at some point...
We go through this "Will they won't they?" song and dance every couple of months. Like any bad soap opera, with a couple of fits and starts. Remember The Great F-16 Saga? "Release The Leopards?"
At every stage, escalation is seen as reckless, unpopular and bringing WWIII that much closer. The West escalates anyway.
In this european lunatics game, what is absolutely not understandable is the behaviour of Germany. Playing, in the same time, against Russia and Trump's USA is puzzling.
Either Germany work for its future, a crushing strong economy based on cheap russian energy.
Either it is submitted to US requirements and we can understand a suicide of german slave.
But seemingly, Germany plays alone, against its own interests, against its US master, against Russia which is the provider of the cheapest energy.
In trying to crush, for years now, its European partnairs and submit them to their Bismarckian Chimera, they also play against UE.
Is Germany periodically infected by virus of dementia?
Take care Germany, the next time you'll set Europe to blood and fire, there will be no mercy for you.
The strange behaviour of the German elite is actually quite easy to explain: they don't work for Germany, but for the interests of others, after which they are rewarded with fat jobs in international or Atlantic institutions.
Europeans like being slaves.
How can conscientious European citizens legally un-seat the likes of van der Leyden, Merz, Macron and other "leaders" who are acting so egregiously in relation to foreign Russian assets?
Europeans want peace not war!
They can't. Even if europeans wanted peace, nobody cares and nobody will ask what europeans think or like or want.
You're right. Nobody wanted war in France and UK in 1939. But our morons declared war to Germany because they feared it would become to big and powerful...
They declared war, didn't move, were severely beaten in 1940 and lost everything, becoming US colonies.
US were, as usual, smart vultures. They waited France was beaten, British strangeled and Germans seemingly beaten by USSR to enter really in the danse.
Brillant.
They put their feet in Africa when Montgomery had already beaten Rommel and Badoglio. And their entered Sicile after Stalingrad and in the middle of battle of Kursk where Russians fought with the best and 95% of german army.
They were saved in Normandy by the operation Bagration launched by Russians the 21th June 44 when allies stonewalled in front of the weakest of german army.
Very smart Yankees who took it all.
The Americans did not want to get involved in WWI, nor WWII, but european (largely british, to be fair) machinations mousetrapped them into both wars.
For that matter, the point of NATO was famously "to keep the Americans in, the germans down, the Russians out".
Then came Yugoslavia. The europeans screamed for years that "America Must Do Something!" but the Americans only got involved in order to distract the public from Bill Clinton's zipper problem.
Of course, 1956 is the counterexample. The Americans refused to endorse the anglo-french-Israeli war and the british and french were forced to slink back to their lairs, there to scheme and plot some more.
For WW2, USA wanted a war with Japan. They did all they could to force Japanese to attack them.
And it's not european shenanigans that involved USA against Germans. It's Hitler who declared war to USA to seduce Japanese and invite them to declare war to USSR.
Missed.
And in Yougoslavie, in 1995, 4 years before the official war against Serbia, it's US F15 which saved the ass of Croatian milicias in bombing Serbian army. In Yougoslavia, Germany was the tool of USA. It wanted to take its vassal back and USA began to take advantage of russian weakness to destroy it traditional allies network.
Churchill certainly did everything he could to entice the Americans into entering wwii.
The Yugoslav Wars had been going on for some years to european caterwauling and general ineffectiveness before the Americans finally got involved, as you recognize.
They discredited themselves long ago this is just about if they can get it done or not.
The Europeans have been involved in global piracy since the Merovingians and Venetians took control of their vulgar parody of church called Roman Catholicism and that is what made them rich. Their hunting dogs the Franks started it with the sack and loot of Constantinople. They will continue to do it until the Eurasian world order achieves critical mass and scale by around 2100-2150. But they are planning the mother of all wars to prevent that eventuality from happening.