The immediate goal of the US’ de facto oil embargo on Cuba is a “regime tweaking” that achieves at least some of Trump’s demanded foreign policy goals and initiates a phased regime change that averts the impending US-instigated humanitarian crisis which could spill into Florida ahead of the midterms.
As William Shakespeare would have written if he was with us today: ‘So many subordinations and so little time!’ The glorious beautiful Armada is sailing from port to port to educate the wretched, the miserable and the penniless to teach them a lesson for the whole world to see. Who is the true Master of this Universe?! And the drama will end in Oslo where he will land and take his six Nobel Peace Prizes where his yellow hair will outshine the rising sun. But will he truly visit the ancient Persian Empire where subordination can be had only for a heavy price? Did he really give up on Greenland where the sun will barely rise for so many days a year?
I think the NeoCohens are still nervous about Cuba because they initiated a successful challenge to the Monroe Doctrine with Soviet support in the 1960s already. Presently, Russia is in no position to offer substantial help because of the Ukraine war and possible complications from NATO. Nakayama (below) is right.
Cuba has nothing to do with Neocons. Neocons came up in the late 1960s, but the Bay of Pigs fiasco was in 1961. The word Neocons means Democrats (or even more to the left) who became conservatives in the late 1960s and early 1970s. But that had nothing to do with the Cuba policy under the Old Democrat JFK.
I think the ‘Donroe Doctrine’ is ultimately about Iran and its ties to Trump’s domestic foes, the so-called ‘Red–Green’ axis (i.e., liberal-globalist ‘anti-imperialists’ and their Islamist allies). Venezuela and its Cuban patron, as part of Chávez’s ALBA, were aligned with the Iranian ‘Axis of Resistance’—economically, ideologically, and to a point militarily. This leftist bloc and its Iranian backers have all along acted at cross purposes with pragmatic nationalists like Trump, Putin, and Xi, while verbally—albeit selectively—lauding ‘liberal-globalist’ policies such as open borders (that is, illicit migration into the West), identity politics (i.e., the various anti-Trump ‘color-revolutions’ in the U.S.), and an end to the existing world-order (i.e., the elimination of the U.S. and/or Israel as such rather than a faction within either of these states). Iran and its allies’ eagerness to endorse just about any means to attain policy goals, rightly or wrongly, has alienated a lot of parties, some of whom might otherwise be at least somewhat sympathetic or have shared views. (Notably neither Russia nor China, unlike Iran, has strongly opposed, at least in practice, Trump’s moves on Venezuela and/or Cuba.)
How foolish. Cuba poses no threat to USA's national security yet Trump's war hawks are intent on destroying the legitimate lifestyle of 10 million Cubans in order to control the financial transactions of the international oil industry. How venal. How arrogant. How dangerous.
Yes, and Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11, Iran is behind every islamic terrorist, Russia melt 2016 presidential elections, Milosevic made a genocide in Kosovo like Kadhafi in Benghazi.
It's only a matter of example for those who could dare defying USA.
Either you are the one who die open mouth crushed by sanctions , or you are the little cat thrown against a wall to show to the world the cost of resistance for the weak and poor countries.
Maybe the original Cuban Revolution is more similar to the North Vietnamese anti-French-colonial revolution. They were not necessarily anti-West, but rather more for nationalism. Vietnam, however, bordered China. In addition to Russian cargo shipping from Vladivostok, Vietnam also received Chinese goods through rail. Although the US did try to mine the port of Haiphong, the US was not able to effectively block ground transportation from China. Ditto for North Korea, which has a railway connection to Russia directly. Cuba does not. There are more reasons for Russia to support Cuba than to support Venezuela, but the Russian Navy is unlikely to run the risk of staying on constant alert on the fringe of WW3 throughout the long voyage from Russia through any port. the so-called Cuban refugees if Cuban becomes unstable is not a real concern. The same can be said about the so-called Venezuelan refugees. Given the background of the existing Cuban communities in Florida, any influx of Cuban transients (non-voting) are not going to have much impact on the mid-term election. Actually, the more the Russian Foreign Ministry talks about the grandiose friendship between the two nations, the more I suspect that Russians have already advised Cubans on the limit of Russian support. Russians have more oil than Cubans ever need, but the armed escort for the long term is no easy task, even after the Ukraine War is over.
Most likely, that will get the opposite effect. Even mushy-brained Trump understands that Oreshniks in Cuba means decapitation in the White House. Russian politics allow Putin to stay in a bunker and talk to everybody through networked video. Ditto for Iran. But the US politics requires that the POTUS carry out a lot of business in the WH. However, the Oreshnik is not a nuclear weapon, and the US can afford to take on hundreds if not thousands of Oreshnik hits and maintain most of its combat power. Long before such an Oreshnik force is built up in Cuba, the US will have invaded Cuba for occupation or destruction (versus for colonialization).
I am more along the Russian line of thinking: rebuild a modern merchant marine (long range cargo/tanker ships) and long-range navy (not necessarily aircraft carrier, more likely to be heavy cruiser or heavy destroyer with attachment of naval infantry for infantry fighting onboard ships) With proper escort to exact a heavy price on anyone who may want to interfere, then the other side is less likely to interfere. This is a way to deal with street thugs, and very suitable to deal with the Americans right now. You don't go to thugs' backyard and threaten to burn down their house. However, it is OK to have fully armed guards to deliver food and other consumer staples to houses in the thugs' neighborhood.
Why Russia (or China or NK) cannot effectively interfere in Venezuela then, and Cuba now, is mostly due to the lack of such a long-range Navy. Five hundred years ago, at the beginning of the Ming dynasty, China once had a long-range Navy, but it lasted only 20 years or less. Otherwise, China does not have such a tradition for long-range Navy despite Chinese emigrants all around its neighborhood. China's current Navy is designed for combat around China. Chinese navy ships deployed close to Iranian ports will be dead meat for the US Navy. Russians need at least 3-5 years to rebuild a modern skeleton of a long-range navy -- Building icebreakers for Northern Transit Route and related ships are more critical than serving faraway allies. And that explains why the US wants to finish the "Cuban Job" before the end of 2026.
If Russia cant protected its "Russian" flagged merchant ships, then how could it protect its military ships? Thats where Russia's problem lies, they're cowards. Everything else is just an excuse.
Trump and the empire he represents must be stopped before millions more die, all of humanity ceases to exist in a nuclear Armageddon. China and Russia can only tolerate so much before they too succumb. This is PURE EVIL, Satanic including the so-called neoliberal movement that is destroying families, children, religions, and cultures. Convince me Evil does not exist.
Evidently, Evil does exist, and it thrives because it uses humans to carry out its evil schemes. Perhaps "Trump and the empire he represents" could be stopped if China and Russia had done for Cuba what the empire has been doing for Taiwan. You cannot engage in diplomatic debates with cynics. You can only fight them.
It wasn't an opportunity for slaves or little peasants. Populations collapsed - and most of every population is slaves and peasants. Populations started to recover only after Charles Martell won his battles. Followed of course by his glorious grandson Charlemagne.
It had nothing to do with it. Charlemagne simply didn't need slaves in his towns. He also reintroduced some Jewish merchants. When Normans took over England they abolished slavery and reintroduced some Jewish merchants there too.
As usual you consider history like a point. No, at least it's a line.
Can't you understand that antiquity and Roman empire had frozen the status of slavery. German invasions and empire's collapse allowed to think differently the fate of dozens of millions slaves.
In some place, slave's master disappeared, killed, on the run.
With the tragic decline of demography a lot of former slaves and settlers was able to run away in other désert place and buil freely a new life.
The new masters needed hands to work as peasant. They had to offer something because they didn't have the roman oppressive and complexe administrative system . Can you understand that?
It came gradually. Slavery, in France was only abolished officially in 1328 by Louis X( first country of the history). But there were no more slaves for centuries.
Slavery still existed in England before Norman Conquest 1066, but then it faded away, first replaced by villeiny and then even that passed away, pretty soon by the landlord and tenant system.
However, each society , since the night of time , was wearing its own germs of destruction: injustice, iniquity.
As soon as somebody feels wronged, it's a source of hate and violence.
Young civilisation grow, and grow, injustice or iniquity inside the civilisation or against other dominated societies.
There's a time when this iniquity and injustice produce enough force to destroy the society or to make that there is nobody who want to protect it no more.
From inside or outside, a new society born. Ect...
Yup. Silver or lead. It works, and the officials look forward to taking a bigger slice of the pie for themselves.
Note that, contrary to the breathless alt-media reports of dollar collapse, these Cubans are delighted to sell themselves and their country for dollars.
We offer Cuba a deal they can’t refuse—we will build them a natural gas pipeline through the Gulf for free in return for democratic elections AND returning property to exiles which due to deferred maintenance has negative value and can only be renovated with cheap loans from the American government anyway.
With the huge subsidies USA currently giving out to private health insurance to middle class, it would probably be cheaper if every US citizen had access to Medicaid (not Medicare) and people who wanted would be allowed to take 70% of the age-adjusted average monthly cost to a private insurance of their choice.
If you pass by Medicaid you depend on all the privately insured people. Without them, the whole system would crumble, because it is underfinanced.
But - that was also the system of health care back in Rome 2 millenia ago. The rich people paid doctors lavishly, and most doctors then had a look at poor patients for almost free. Same way in Britain up to 1945.
The reason US system is so expensive (hospitals etc) is that doctors earn so much money because it costs like half a million $ to get through a good college and med school. So they can charge high fees to pay off their very high education costs. That wasn't the situation 100 years ago.
As William Shakespeare would have written if he was with us today: ‘So many subordinations and so little time!’ The glorious beautiful Armada is sailing from port to port to educate the wretched, the miserable and the penniless to teach them a lesson for the whole world to see. Who is the true Master of this Universe?! And the drama will end in Oslo where he will land and take his six Nobel Peace Prizes where his yellow hair will outshine the rising sun. But will he truly visit the ancient Persian Empire where subordination can be had only for a heavy price? Did he really give up on Greenland where the sun will barely rise for so many days a year?
The USA has not won a war in 75 years. It is losing the proxy war ikt started & finances in Ukraine. So now we go and pick on Cuba. What a shame.
Not really. First you go win the wars you can win. Putin didn't do it differently. First Chechnya. Then Georgia. Now Novorossiya.
I think the NeoCohens are still nervous about Cuba because they initiated a successful challenge to the Monroe Doctrine with Soviet support in the 1960s already. Presently, Russia is in no position to offer substantial help because of the Ukraine war and possible complications from NATO. Nakayama (below) is right.
Cuba has nothing to do with Neocons. Neocons came up in the late 1960s, but the Bay of Pigs fiasco was in 1961. The word Neocons means Democrats (or even more to the left) who became conservatives in the late 1960s and early 1970s. But that had nothing to do with the Cuba policy under the Old Democrat JFK.
NeoCohens are a shape shifting gang of chameleons who keep using different names and integrate from left to right.
G'day Walter, you forgot the massive defeat of Granada by the Empire such awesome display of power for all to see.
I think the ‘Donroe Doctrine’ is ultimately about Iran and its ties to Trump’s domestic foes, the so-called ‘Red–Green’ axis (i.e., liberal-globalist ‘anti-imperialists’ and their Islamist allies). Venezuela and its Cuban patron, as part of Chávez’s ALBA, were aligned with the Iranian ‘Axis of Resistance’—economically, ideologically, and to a point militarily. This leftist bloc and its Iranian backers have all along acted at cross purposes with pragmatic nationalists like Trump, Putin, and Xi, while verbally—albeit selectively—lauding ‘liberal-globalist’ policies such as open borders (that is, illicit migration into the West), identity politics (i.e., the various anti-Trump ‘color-revolutions’ in the U.S.), and an end to the existing world-order (i.e., the elimination of the U.S. and/or Israel as such rather than a faction within either of these states). Iran and its allies’ eagerness to endorse just about any means to attain policy goals, rightly or wrongly, has alienated a lot of parties, some of whom might otherwise be at least somewhat sympathetic or have shared views. (Notably neither Russia nor China, unlike Iran, has strongly opposed, at least in practice, Trump’s moves on Venezuela and/or Cuba.)
How foolish. Cuba poses no threat to USA's national security yet Trump's war hawks are intent on destroying the legitimate lifestyle of 10 million Cubans in order to control the financial transactions of the international oil industry. How venal. How arrogant. How dangerous.
Cuba is funding and directing parts of the anti-ICE insurgency campaign.
Always fun times here
Yes, and Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11, Iran is behind every islamic terrorist, Russia melt 2016 presidential elections, Milosevic made a genocide in Kosovo like Kadhafi in Benghazi.
And Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK alone.
It's only a matter of example for those who could dare defying USA.
Either you are the one who die open mouth crushed by sanctions , or you are the little cat thrown against a wall to show to the world the cost of resistance for the weak and poor countries.
Trump send a message.
Please stop making cats nervous.
It's just the kitten . 😬
Asshole.
????
Are you fully ok?
Think how a cat would feel about this.
Maybe the original Cuban Revolution is more similar to the North Vietnamese anti-French-colonial revolution. They were not necessarily anti-West, but rather more for nationalism. Vietnam, however, bordered China. In addition to Russian cargo shipping from Vladivostok, Vietnam also received Chinese goods through rail. Although the US did try to mine the port of Haiphong, the US was not able to effectively block ground transportation from China. Ditto for North Korea, which has a railway connection to Russia directly. Cuba does not. There are more reasons for Russia to support Cuba than to support Venezuela, but the Russian Navy is unlikely to run the risk of staying on constant alert on the fringe of WW3 throughout the long voyage from Russia through any port. the so-called Cuban refugees if Cuban becomes unstable is not a real concern. The same can be said about the so-called Venezuelan refugees. Given the background of the existing Cuban communities in Florida, any influx of Cuban transients (non-voting) are not going to have much impact on the mid-term election. Actually, the more the Russian Foreign Ministry talks about the grandiose friendship between the two nations, the more I suspect that Russians have already advised Cubans on the limit of Russian support. Russians have more oil than Cubans ever need, but the armed escort for the long term is no easy task, even after the Ukraine War is over.
Install Oreshniks in Cuba.
Trump will back off.
Most likely, that will get the opposite effect. Even mushy-brained Trump understands that Oreshniks in Cuba means decapitation in the White House. Russian politics allow Putin to stay in a bunker and talk to everybody through networked video. Ditto for Iran. But the US politics requires that the POTUS carry out a lot of business in the WH. However, the Oreshnik is not a nuclear weapon, and the US can afford to take on hundreds if not thousands of Oreshnik hits and maintain most of its combat power. Long before such an Oreshnik force is built up in Cuba, the US will have invaded Cuba for occupation or destruction (versus for colonialization).
I am more along the Russian line of thinking: rebuild a modern merchant marine (long range cargo/tanker ships) and long-range navy (not necessarily aircraft carrier, more likely to be heavy cruiser or heavy destroyer with attachment of naval infantry for infantry fighting onboard ships) With proper escort to exact a heavy price on anyone who may want to interfere, then the other side is less likely to interfere. This is a way to deal with street thugs, and very suitable to deal with the Americans right now. You don't go to thugs' backyard and threaten to burn down their house. However, it is OK to have fully armed guards to deliver food and other consumer staples to houses in the thugs' neighborhood.
Why Russia (or China or NK) cannot effectively interfere in Venezuela then, and Cuba now, is mostly due to the lack of such a long-range Navy. Five hundred years ago, at the beginning of the Ming dynasty, China once had a long-range Navy, but it lasted only 20 years or less. Otherwise, China does not have such a tradition for long-range Navy despite Chinese emigrants all around its neighborhood. China's current Navy is designed for combat around China. Chinese navy ships deployed close to Iranian ports will be dead meat for the US Navy. Russians need at least 3-5 years to rebuild a modern skeleton of a long-range navy -- Building icebreakers for Northern Transit Route and related ships are more critical than serving faraway allies. And that explains why the US wants to finish the "Cuban Job" before the end of 2026.
If Russia cant protected its "Russian" flagged merchant ships, then how could it protect its military ships? Thats where Russia's problem lies, they're cowards. Everything else is just an excuse.
You left out the military's corruption from top to bottom.
And Russia can't fight for rotten regime which just ask to lay down in front of USA.
We've seen this abject thing in Syria, in Venezuela and perhaps tomorrow in Iran.
Trump and the empire he represents must be stopped before millions more die, all of humanity ceases to exist in a nuclear Armageddon. China and Russia can only tolerate so much before they too succumb. This is PURE EVIL, Satanic including the so-called neoliberal movement that is destroying families, children, religions, and cultures. Convince me Evil does not exist.
Evidently, Evil does exist, and it thrives because it uses humans to carry out its evil schemes. Perhaps "Trump and the empire he represents" could be stopped if China and Russia had done for Cuba what the empire has been doing for Taiwan. You cannot engage in diplomatic debates with cynics. You can only fight them.
This would require Russia and China to be far more audacious and proactive.
When you can't protect your friends and you can't deter your ennemies or the possible traitors, you're dead
He's your monster, putinistas
Always be whining, always be outraged, always be sanctimonious -
The problem is that when the evil collapse, it's replaced by a worst evil.
But it's depending for who.
When western Roman empire collapsed, it was awful for the rich and the middle class. But for slaves or settlers, it was an opportunity.
It wasn't an opportunity for slaves or little peasants. Populations collapsed - and most of every population is slaves and peasants. Populations started to recover only after Charles Martell won his battles. Followed of course by his glorious grandson Charlemagne.
Yes, it's true but this horrible time allowed to begin the exit of slavery among west Europeans.
It had nothing to do with it. Charlemagne simply didn't need slaves in his towns. He also reintroduced some Jewish merchants. When Normans took over England they abolished slavery and reintroduced some Jewish merchants there too.
As usual you consider history like a point. No, at least it's a line.
Can't you understand that antiquity and Roman empire had frozen the status of slavery. German invasions and empire's collapse allowed to think differently the fate of dozens of millions slaves.
In some place, slave's master disappeared, killed, on the run.
With the tragic decline of demography a lot of former slaves and settlers was able to run away in other désert place and buil freely a new life.
The new masters needed hands to work as peasant. They had to offer something because they didn't have the roman oppressive and complexe administrative system . Can you understand that?
It came gradually. Slavery, in France was only abolished officially in 1328 by Louis X( first country of the history). But there were no more slaves for centuries.
Slavery still existed in England before Norman Conquest 1066, but then it faded away, first replaced by villeiny and then even that passed away, pretty soon by the landlord and tenant system.
I don´t think Evil collapses. Rather, it transforms.
Yes, everything change so that nothing change.
However, each society , since the night of time , was wearing its own germs of destruction: injustice, iniquity.
As soon as somebody feels wronged, it's a source of hate and violence.
Young civilisation grow, and grow, injustice or iniquity inside the civilisation or against other dominated societies.
There's a time when this iniquity and injustice produce enough force to destroy the society or to make that there is nobody who want to protect it no more.
From inside or outside, a new society born. Ect...
The US has no interest in regime tweaking, but domination and control, especially as Cuba is such a symbolic issue for the American Right.
What does anyone propose to do about it?
This old regime is completely rotten inside. Like Syrian, Venezuelan and probably Iranian .
Trump probably know by his services that a lot of dignitaries in the state apparatus and in the army don't ask for more than been sold to USA.
For less than a billion dollar, USA perhaps can buy hundreds of high officials and officers.
Yup. Silver or lead. It works, and the officials look forward to taking a bigger slice of the pie for themselves.
Note that, contrary to the breathless alt-media reports of dollar collapse, these Cubans are delighted to sell themselves and their country for dollars.
We offer Cuba a deal they can’t refuse—we will build them a natural gas pipeline through the Gulf for free in return for democratic elections AND returning property to exiles which due to deferred maintenance has negative value and can only be renovated with cheap loans from the American government anyway.
This will be a good thing. No communists allowed in the Western Hemisphere!
Please, define: "communist".
With US morons( I don't speak about all US citizens, just the morons), they usually use the word "communist" which have nothing to do with communism.
Woke? Communist
health for free? Communist
Education for free? Communist
Social regulation of bizness? Communist
Environmental regulation of bizness ? Communist.
Free immigration? Communist
Against US imperialism? Communist
Against Western imperialism? Communist.
USphobe? Communist
All those topic has NOTHING to do with communism.
So, please mister Redneck, define communist.
With the huge subsidies USA currently giving out to private health insurance to middle class, it would probably be cheaper if every US citizen had access to Medicaid (not Medicare) and people who wanted would be allowed to take 70% of the age-adjusted average monthly cost to a private insurance of their choice.
No, no, no, you're crazy.
It's not the people which have subventions. No, it's the health system which can charging outrageous prices and gorging themselves like pigs.
If you pass by Medicaid, prices are controlled and very low.
End of the feast for pharmaceutic shareholders, surgeons, doctors, hospitals.
If you pass by Medicaid you depend on all the privately insured people. Without them, the whole system would crumble, because it is underfinanced.
But - that was also the system of health care back in Rome 2 millenia ago. The rich people paid doctors lavishly, and most doctors then had a look at poor patients for almost free. Same way in Britain up to 1945.
The reason US system is so expensive (hospitals etc) is that doctors earn so much money because it costs like half a million $ to get through a good college and med school. So they can charge high fees to pay off their very high education costs. That wasn't the situation 100 years ago.
Are you a bot?
No. Are you an idiot? You sure come across as one.
Brown must be the gentleman’s favorite colour, as in the Brown Shirts.