This final “Line of Effort” underpins the preceding three regarding the Western Hemisphere, the Indo-Pacific, and burden-sharing, all of which are being pursued in furtherance of Trump 2.0’s grand strategic goal of restoring the US’ predominant position over the world, including over China and Russia.
How likely is a high cost, heavily indebted, deindustrialised, friendless vassal of a tiny genocidal state being able to deliver "World War-like levels of military-industrial production" to match that of the world's sole industrial superpower?
TRUMP, if you want to contro lthe world get Russia as an alley .Together you will have 90% of the worlds nuclear weapons. Having Russia + China as enemies + the countries they control in Asia leaves you helpless.
I think a "loosely coupled" alliance is the best outcome. We don't share a direct border with Russia. There's room for each to scale back to regions of influence. There will never be trust like say between the US and the UK, but there can be a realistic functional relationship.
Borders are bad for alliances, especially where there's been historic drama (which is almost always the case). As powers ebb and flow over decades, they are always potential conflict, friction, etc.
Russia is in the worst situation here -- EU on one side, China on the other.
If Russia were to ally with Europe, it will become soft, fruity and in a couple generations unable to culturally fight a war like in Ukraine.
If Russia were to ally with China, Chinese "investment" and migration into Siberia will eventually result in everything east of the Urals becoming de facto Chinese.
First bullshit: confidence between USA and UK. It's only a matter of domination and submission.
Second bullshit: frontiers are bad for alliance. History always proved the contrary .
Third bullshit: Russia is at the worst situation between UE and China. The DNA of Russia has always been to grow without natural borders and open to all the big power that surrend it.
Fourth bullshit: UE would become weak allied with Russia. Europe is ALREADY reduced to a pile of soft shit thanks to it's "alliance" with USA.
Fifth bullshit: Russia is already allied with China. And it counterbalance this alliance with India.
Typical US bullshiter. USA should change the bald eagle by a parrot. A dumb parrot.
This week we learned that the Danish still think they won WWII and are still at the height of their imperial power. This is not politics, its mass mental illness.
The last time I looked, Danes were still occupied by the Germans on May 9th, 1945. British wanted them to stay that way, but US decided against, because (prior to nukes), US needed Soviets to fight Japan.
Yes Darras, you're no more Danish than you are a good reader -- I never implied that you were. But you've imagined it just as you've imagined that you thought you understood what I wrote.
But back to the Danish -- this is a classic case of how Europe really sees itself on display. The Danish self-image is completely at odds from how everyone else (outside of the EU of course) sees the Danish, and reality. Europe currently is weak because it lacks the ability to produce value, and it's going to stay that way as long as this denial persists that we're living in 1926 still. This has nothing to do with its allies, and won't be solved by any clever solutions, any grand games, backroom deals, etc. Brussels is a system of bureaucracy combined with rent seekers profiting (the oligarch class is very much alive in Western Europe) and a decent part of society paid off to not cause problems. Then there's middle class professionals trying to make it to retirement, but many of the younger generation have few great options. Just look for example at how poorly engineering jobs pay in much of Europe. Slowly the EU will consume itself, just look at how the farmers have been sold out so, presumably, some other interest can sell finished goods to SA.
There's no impetus for structural change because too many people feel that any change would probably leave them worse off than before. But time marches on and there's no ability to avoid structural change forever.
there certainly is at this time no trust between rus and usa, because the us are cynical liars, again and again. rus needs lots of proof for us honesty for a long time with a sound security architecture.
uk is like much of eu hopelessly decadent, just the mi 6 is gearing up ukraines army
to kill more young people there. great success for an arrogant worldleading commenwealth/empire.
Defense industry is not per se something different from generic industry. The problem with the US is it doesn't have much of a disciplined and highly skilled/educated workforce. It had that in 1920s, and it won WW2 on the force of it. Plus the substantial influx of former German, former Italian, former Hungarian intelligence. But that was then, and now is now. Just to compare, since the low-point in 1992, Russia has dramatically improved its industrial productivity. Even if a lot of it is concentrated in defence and is highly dependent on Chinese semiconductors.
The only one who probably could execute a US turn-around is Trump, but I think he will be a lame-duck in 2027/2028 and gone by 2029. Let's see.
America got very lucky Biden won the 2020 and brought back manufacturing and made America energy dominant reduced the fentanyl ODs and violent crime and had two years of zero military hostile action deaths after we averaged 15 a week for 4 years under Bush/Cheney. From a defense standpoint Biden helped Ukraine defend itself from Putin which has degraded Russia’s military and he gave Netanyahu free rein to exterminate Israel’s enemies after 10/7. America’s low point was 2008 and since 2010 we’ve been getting stronger every year other than 2020. 2008 was Russia’s high point as that was the year with the highest energy prices while our military was overextended and our economy was imploding.
Biden (or actually his handlers) gave Hamas and Iran the green light for the October 7th attack. Americans had the intelligence on it before but hid it from the Israelis. And then, Biden slowed down Israeli response. Totally predictable, with anti-Israeli sentiment in the Democrat party.
America doesn’t monitor Hamas at a high level…Mossad doesn’t even monitor Hamas because Gaza isn’t considered a foreign country!! Shin Bet and Netanyahu failed to stop Hamas which trained for the attack in broad daylight. I would say America had .001% blame for 10/7 with most going to Kushner and the Abraham Accords because we took Gaza out of the equation which made them desperate.
America monitors Middle East excessively. What do you think the USA is doing with all the billions of dollars they are pouring into Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon or Syria? Or Gaza for that matter. A lot of that money goes to Hezbollah and Hamas. Of course they monitor. Usually, for that they use non-Jews of Nazi variety and Muslims who are keen to interfere with Israeli intelligence.
Apparently, the USA took out the Israeli intelligence ring in Lebanon in the year before October 7 - probably for that specific purpose. Not the first time, by the way - the USA also hid the intelligence about the Yom Kippur war preparations from Israeli eyes in 1973.
Sorry, bro, America monitored Hamas at a level 4 which means they weren’t a concern to attack Americans at home or abroad outside of Israel…and Shin Bet was monitoring them for Israel. We have lost Marines in Lebanon and Hezbollah is our concern…and it’s different than Hamas. Basically you believe Mossad failed to inform America about the OKC Bomber which is 🦇 💩 crazy. 😉
That expanded level of spending seems like a questionable when raising capital for AI infrastructure and on shoring are competing with the US Treasury for investors. There must be an assumption that an AI deflationary wave will dampen the inflationary impact of more growth in deficit spending.
It is like 1984. Offense is called Defense and a yellow haired Clown demands to be called a peace dove, asking for Nobel peace prizes, while starting wars and confrontations all ove the planet. Another one calls itself the ‘servant of the people’ and is working hard (seated on his golden toilet) to exterminate the male population of a White Nation. In some respects NATO nations lost touch with reality. America is operating with the outdated repetition of a successful 20th century strategic approach that assumes a militarily untouchable North American continent with a homogenic, dominant population and overwhelming industrial productivity. The reality on the ground is very different.
Behind the rhetoric and absurd behavior of Clown Societies there is a single fact that stands out clearly: America has developed nuclear and biological weapons that can exterminate the overwhelming majority of the planet’s population and in so many acts is posturing to use them. There are a few more nations playing with the same toys but it is exclusively the NATO nations where sanity is lost and this is reflected in various NATO societies on many different levels. The line has to be drawn between sanity and insanity to reestablish order and peace.
How likely is a high cost, heavily indebted, deindustrialised, friendless vassal of a tiny genocidal state being able to deliver "World War-like levels of military-industrial production" to match that of the world's sole industrial superpower?
you speak of the gasstation masquerading as a country, or uk?
I think the same way China became an industrial hotspot in about 30 years -- getting people off their @ss.
I think it's obvious that a precondition is a substantial drop in (Western) European living standards.
TRUMP, if you want to contro lthe world get Russia as an alley .Together you will have 90% of the worlds nuclear weapons. Having Russia + China as enemies + the countries they control in Asia leaves you helpless.
I think a "loosely coupled" alliance is the best outcome. We don't share a direct border with Russia. There's room for each to scale back to regions of influence. There will never be trust like say between the US and the UK, but there can be a realistic functional relationship.
Borders are bad for alliances, especially where there's been historic drama (which is almost always the case). As powers ebb and flow over decades, they are always potential conflict, friction, etc.
Russia is in the worst situation here -- EU on one side, China on the other.
If Russia were to ally with Europe, it will become soft, fruity and in a couple generations unable to culturally fight a war like in Ukraine.
If Russia were to ally with China, Chinese "investment" and migration into Siberia will eventually result in everything east of the Urals becoming de facto Chinese.
First bullshit: confidence between USA and UK. It's only a matter of domination and submission.
Second bullshit: frontiers are bad for alliance. History always proved the contrary .
Third bullshit: Russia is at the worst situation between UE and China. The DNA of Russia has always been to grow without natural borders and open to all the big power that surrend it.
Fourth bullshit: UE would become weak allied with Russia. Europe is ALREADY reduced to a pile of soft shit thanks to it's "alliance" with USA.
Fifth bullshit: Russia is already allied with China. And it counterbalance this alliance with India.
Typical US bullshiter. USA should change the bald eagle by a parrot. A dumb parrot.
agrr with some your views.
not 4th bs: eu and rus have to speak, but eu is dumm, weak, helpless and desparate. its their incompetent leaderships, all lower then middlegrade
party members. no vision, no hope for good econonmies, shakin in their boots
usa would ask they should manage their own defence. i live in bavaria, a hole in
the wall like the whole country. it was a long way down.
This week we learned that the Danish still think they won WWII and are still at the height of their imperial power. This is not politics, its mass mental illness.
You make my point obvious.
The last time I looked, Danes were still occupied by the Germans on May 9th, 1945. British wanted them to stay that way, but US decided against, because (prior to nukes), US needed Soviets to fight Japan.
Ho, I'm not Danish.
And concerning mental disease, you seem expert.
Yes Darras, you're no more Danish than you are a good reader -- I never implied that you were. But you've imagined it just as you've imagined that you thought you understood what I wrote.
But back to the Danish -- this is a classic case of how Europe really sees itself on display. The Danish self-image is completely at odds from how everyone else (outside of the EU of course) sees the Danish, and reality. Europe currently is weak because it lacks the ability to produce value, and it's going to stay that way as long as this denial persists that we're living in 1926 still. This has nothing to do with its allies, and won't be solved by any clever solutions, any grand games, backroom deals, etc. Brussels is a system of bureaucracy combined with rent seekers profiting (the oligarch class is very much alive in Western Europe) and a decent part of society paid off to not cause problems. Then there's middle class professionals trying to make it to retirement, but many of the younger generation have few great options. Just look for example at how poorly engineering jobs pay in much of Europe. Slowly the EU will consume itself, just look at how the farmers have been sold out so, presumably, some other interest can sell finished goods to SA.
There's no impetus for structural change because too many people feel that any change would probably leave them worse off than before. But time marches on and there's no ability to avoid structural change forever.
you still in highschool?
there certainly is at this time no trust between rus and usa, because the us are cynical liars, again and again. rus needs lots of proof for us honesty for a long time with a sound security architecture.
uk is like much of eu hopelessly decadent, just the mi 6 is gearing up ukraines army
to kill more young people there. great success for an arrogant worldleading commenwealth/empire.
Trump doesn't need Russia as an ally. It's enough for him not to be on a distracting war footing with Russia. Which he is in now.
Very well.
With who?
With what?
The will build their defense industry with Indian or Chinese engeeners? With what technicians? What qualified workers?
With what money? US infrastructures is already almost became a third world one and need an urgent refit.
They're not gonna fix infrastructure they're gonna blow the money through defense contractors
The hole is so deep you gotta go full def-con WW11 to dig out that sum-bitch
And who is paying for this ??? More debt I guess ……, which means we the rest of the world is paying for this US dominance objective.
Oh fvck. I was really hoping we were moving toward multi. Seems he’s not really realizing the party’s over.
you mean multipolar? is moving along. the deep state, the neocons, the cold war senate,
them guys need another decade, not to learn, just to die out.
Defense industry is not per se something different from generic industry. The problem with the US is it doesn't have much of a disciplined and highly skilled/educated workforce. It had that in 1920s, and it won WW2 on the force of it. Plus the substantial influx of former German, former Italian, former Hungarian intelligence. But that was then, and now is now. Just to compare, since the low-point in 1992, Russia has dramatically improved its industrial productivity. Even if a lot of it is concentrated in defence and is highly dependent on Chinese semiconductors.
The only one who probably could execute a US turn-around is Trump, but I think he will be a lame-duck in 2027/2028 and gone by 2029. Let's see.
America got very lucky Biden won the 2020 and brought back manufacturing and made America energy dominant reduced the fentanyl ODs and violent crime and had two years of zero military hostile action deaths after we averaged 15 a week for 4 years under Bush/Cheney. From a defense standpoint Biden helped Ukraine defend itself from Putin which has degraded Russia’s military and he gave Netanyahu free rein to exterminate Israel’s enemies after 10/7. America’s low point was 2008 and since 2010 we’ve been getting stronger every year other than 2020. 2008 was Russia’s high point as that was the year with the highest energy prices while our military was overextended and our economy was imploding.
Biden (or actually his handlers) gave Hamas and Iran the green light for the October 7th attack. Americans had the intelligence on it before but hid it from the Israelis. And then, Biden slowed down Israeli response. Totally predictable, with anti-Israeli sentiment in the Democrat party.
America doesn’t monitor Hamas at a high level…Mossad doesn’t even monitor Hamas because Gaza isn’t considered a foreign country!! Shin Bet and Netanyahu failed to stop Hamas which trained for the attack in broad daylight. I would say America had .001% blame for 10/7 with most going to Kushner and the Abraham Accords because we took Gaza out of the equation which made them desperate.
America monitors Middle East excessively. What do you think the USA is doing with all the billions of dollars they are pouring into Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon or Syria? Or Gaza for that matter. A lot of that money goes to Hezbollah and Hamas. Of course they monitor. Usually, for that they use non-Jews of Nazi variety and Muslims who are keen to interfere with Israeli intelligence.
Apparently, the USA took out the Israeli intelligence ring in Lebanon in the year before October 7 - probably for that specific purpose. Not the first time, by the way - the USA also hid the intelligence about the Yom Kippur war preparations from Israeli eyes in 1973.
Sorry, bro, America monitored Hamas at a level 4 which means they weren’t a concern to attack Americans at home or abroad outside of Israel…and Shin Bet was monitoring them for Israel. We have lost Marines in Lebanon and Hezbollah is our concern…and it’s different than Hamas. Basically you believe Mossad failed to inform America about the OKC Bomber which is 🦇 💩 crazy. 😉
That expanded level of spending seems like a questionable when raising capital for AI infrastructure and on shoring are competing with the US Treasury for investors. There must be an assumption that an AI deflationary wave will dampen the inflationary impact of more growth in deficit spending.
It is like 1984. Offense is called Defense and a yellow haired Clown demands to be called a peace dove, asking for Nobel peace prizes, while starting wars and confrontations all ove the planet. Another one calls itself the ‘servant of the people’ and is working hard (seated on his golden toilet) to exterminate the male population of a White Nation. In some respects NATO nations lost touch with reality. America is operating with the outdated repetition of a successful 20th century strategic approach that assumes a militarily untouchable North American continent with a homogenic, dominant population and overwhelming industrial productivity. The reality on the ground is very different.
Behind the rhetoric and absurd behavior of Clown Societies there is a single fact that stands out clearly: America has developed nuclear and biological weapons that can exterminate the overwhelming majority of the planet’s population and in so many acts is posturing to use them. There are a few more nations playing with the same toys but it is exclusively the NATO nations where sanity is lost and this is reflected in various NATO societies on many different levels. The line has to be drawn between sanity and insanity to reestablish order and peace.