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Herman's avatar

"The US decided that India’s rise as a Great Power must be derailed and it’ll pursue this by all possible means."

Thank you for this important insight. As you stated in previous articles, this American strategy clarifies the recent revolutions in Bangladesh and Nepal. I start to wonder if it doesn't shed a new light on the Pahalgam attack and the resulting Indo-Pakistani conflict as well?

After all, Pakistan is an ally/vassal of the USA.

Andrew Korybko's avatar

Personally, I think that the US wasn't aware of Pahalgam in advance, but opportunistically exploited the consequent Indo-Pak tensions to accelerate its rapprochement with Pakistan as a means of more muscularly containing India for coercing it into lopsided vassal-like deals.

Darras's avatar

Andrew, all the US intelligence community is in Pakistan like at home, idem for army, idem for politic leaders and you think they didn't know?

Big doubt.

Andrew Korybko's avatar

Whether they knew or not, I don't believe that they ordered it or it was in any way carried out with their support. The false-flag theory has been pushed by hardcore BRICS/multipolar enthusiasts to absolve Pakistan's de facto military regime of any involvement in what happened. I very strongly disagree with that.

Andrew Korybko's avatar

The Mainstream Alt-Media narrative pushed by Pepe Escobar and his buddies is that the US carried out Pahalgam and concocted some false trace to Pakistan for raising the odds of kinetic cross-border Indian retaliation.

According to what they very obviously implied, this was meant to divide-and-rule the SCO -- which Pepe confidently claims will inevitably merge with BRICS and thus lead to Pakistan joining the latter despite India's veto -- but that complete ignores Pakistan's involvement in other attacks.

It's not possible to have a serious discussion about those attacks with most Pakistanis since they're convinced that every single one without exception was a false flag by the US and/or India, but objectively speaking from my honest assessment, Pakistan does indeed have a track record for this.

Top Mainstream Alt-Media influencers can't acknowledge this though since they fear that it would sow doubts among their ranks about why Russia and China allowed Pakistan to join the SCO, not to mention close military-intelligence ties between Pakistan and China.

For that reason, they resorted to the predictable false flag hypothesis to "save face" and uphold their ideologically driven worldview about the emerging multipolar order, which boils down to the false belief that all non-Western countries are more or less cooperating against the US.

Feral Finster's avatar

Escobar is a serial fantasist, the alt-media Luke Harding.

Andrew Korybko's avatar

Lol good comparison!

Darras's avatar

Since 10 years, I've read nobody, absolutely nobody so often wrong and in mistake than Pepe Escobar. Besides, in french AMC, 5 years ago, he was systematically published everywhere and quoted as the greatest pundit. Five years after hundreds of mistakes, wrong predictions and bad analyses, nobody publish him today in my country. Finish.

What a has-been jester.

I'm astonished that he is received as a diva in Russia, and by the highest level of state.

What a punk.

Escobar, Bordachev, Duguine, with this kind of thinkers , Russia is not out the sand.

Nakayama's avatar

The cost of dumping Escobar is lower when that kind of time comes.

Darras's avatar

Yes, for that, I'm full ok with you.

Roger Boyd's avatar

These idiots are playing some simplistic strategy game from the 1990s. Pakistan is heavily reliant on China (remember where those fighter-bombers came from?) and will never let the US back into Afghanistan as that would be very unwanted by China. Pakistan will remain playing both sides.

The US is doing with India what it did with Russia, giving them no option other than allying with China. The Indians will swallow their massive pride and work with China, and China will as always show the courtesy and formal respect to make this happen. The world is very different these days, and the US has shot its wad when it comes to global influence.

Steve's avatar

China should counter every U.S. move to coerce/weaken India, with further bI-lateral reassurance measures, trade deals, diplomatic cooperation. It isn’t hard to see the usual US game, and it shouldn’t be hard for two neighbouring countries with thousands of years of statecraft experience to counter a fast fading Empire that doesn’t know how to spell diplomacy.

Darras's avatar

It seems that China and Russia are refusing the direct strike. They face the western citadel and they don't want to risk a frontal attack on such huge and strong walls.

They choose to lay siege. And this method requires to be patient.

One have to consider that four years ago, west ruled the world. Now, you see west circle the wagons and toss restlessly and anxiously behind its walls.

Huge. In less than 4 years. After 500 years of ruling the world.

Know China and Russia keep west citadel in constant alert, without attacking directly.

And they don't bombard the walls.

They dig a mine under. And they dig, and dig, patiently. And when the mine will be big enough, the walls will collapse alone and the partie will be over.

The wall is the dollar and the financial system.

Steve's avatar

Sounds about right. 👍

Darras's avatar

They can loose.

It's the hasard of war. Even cold.

Mediocrates's avatar

Just as USA failed to subjugate Viet Nam and were forced to withdraw under humiliating circumstances, so too did USA/NATO fail to subjugate Afghanistan leading to another ignominious retreat. Why would any conscientious Taliban official contemplate or enable any return of USA military to Bagram air base?

Gene Frenkle's avatar

I doubt they will, but Trump had a hilarious anecdote about his military advisers advocating killing Taliban and ISIS-K that want to kill each other. So we actually could partner with the Taliban because outside of Afghanistan they pose no threat to Americans while ISIS-K could theoretically attack Americans outside of Afghanistan. We never really had to be enemies with the Taliban which is why the Bush administration made the war about democracy and helping women and children because the Taliban was never a threat to the American homeland.

Ash 1952's avatar

India will not bend to usa’s wishes . India’s export to usa is only 4.5% of its gdp . But if you take all transactions that usa earns from India , USA comes out better off . What trump is missing, is that India for foreseeable future is a fast growing economy. All big business in USA can see that and are putting their foundation there . If trump takes hard stand , so can India where it can slap high taxes on USA companies. All economists have forecasted India to be next economy to reach 3rd largest economy.

USA is making big mistakes by supporting Pakistan, Bangladesh to surround India. Last time Pakistan made a fool out of USA .

If USA thinks by surrounding India via Pakistan , Bangladesh, Nepal , mayanmar , Shri Lanka , it will be biggest mistake ever .

Looking at latest development where Indian foreign minister had 2 hr talk with trump , and another minister heading to USA for negotiations sounds like trump is taking a back step from the brink .

Nakayama's avatar

I think some nationalists inside Pakistan's ISI have been trying to build a larger Pakistan by swallowing Afghanistan or most of it. Adding Kashmir, Pakistan would be at the junction of Russia, China, India, and Iran, yet still has ocean access and shares religion with Central Asia. As many commentators have said earlier, they will play all the cards they can. I don't think Pakistan will be cooperative in helping the US to get back to Afghanistan, besides lip service. Unless, of course, the US is willing to pay a lot. I think India will drift closer to Russia and China, as there is no other choice. Surrendering to the US will guarantee Modi and his party lose the coming elections.

Darras's avatar

USA succeeded in breaking the rise of Japan in the 80's bye plunging it in the cash trap.

USA succeeded perfectly in breaking the rise of UE in the 90's in forcing it to incorporate US slaves countries of eastern Europa which didn't give a shit of European project and helped USA with UK to destroy it.

USA succeeded, with bloody wars, in destroying each west-asian country which could bother their master israelian and their Arabs colonies.

USA failed to stop China(for now. USA took 25 years to destroy UE project)

USA failed to stop Russia(for now)

Will USA succeed or fail in stopping India rise. A huge part of the Indian ruling class consider itself as US citizen, are only bothered by its money, don't give a shit of Indian sovereignty and consider that they have more interest to be US compradores than Indian patriots. Therefore, it's just a matter of time, India is done.

Ash 1952's avatar

You are underestimating India . India is not what it was pre 2014 . In those 11 years India has cleaned up its banking , pushed its digital economy, it’s pushing hard of self reliance. India was ranked 10th in global gdp terms today it stands 4th .

Darras's avatar

You're out topic about what I say.

Have you read?

You right? And?

I can assure you that Indira was hugely more firm than Modi. And ruling class was patriot, not US servile.

Ash 1952's avatar

Indira was an autocrat which modi isn’t . Do you know Indira was in pay of kgb ?

Darras's avatar

Ho...ok, I see 😂😂

Gene Frenkle's avatar

Uh, the Bush family had a goal of making China great again and it was the goal of successive generations with a Bush advising Ike as a Cold Warrior attempting to weaken USSR and then a Bush being Nixon’s point man with the opening up of China and then a President Bush ignoring Tiananmen Square and then finally a president Bush bringing China into the WTO and his final foreign trip was to the 2008 Beijing Olympics which were a watershed moment in human history.

Seldom's avatar

I guess the US can't go after China, so they're going after the weaker party.

Darras's avatar

It's the game.

And it has always been the Anglo-Saxon way and specially the US way.

USA never ever attack frontally a peer. Never ever.

Only frontally a tiny or hugely weaker country.

And as soon as the target is considered as to dangerous to attack frontally, it's immediately the search of soft belly or weak link.

In his history, USA only attack a peer when this peer have already be terribly weaken by another.

Look at the savannah, it's not the lions which rule, it's the hyenas.

Paolo Giusti's avatar

Truly enforcing H1B ban would be enough.

Max Headroom's avatar

I am quite sure, Indians are already shivering in ther boots when thinking about the US delivering "state of the art US arms to Pakistan". ;-)

The US doesn't have any weapons system that anyone should be afraid of, except for her nukes and her still formidable submarine fleet- both of which won't be given to anyone. Other than that, US "state of the art" weapons are mostly state of the art overpriced junk, unsuited for the modern battlefield and inferior to most of what Russia, China, and even Iran and India can field.

Richard Graham's avatar

Anyone thinking Russia or China will negotiate existential security

with corrupt, lying, war criminal Western politicians is delusional.

Harald Kujat (German Gen. (ret)):
"Putin didn't decide to invade Ukraine at Breakfast one day.”

Trumpanzee threats to Canada and Denmark

underline American treachery

so that no nation can trust Americans.

Indians are faced with an eternal question:

What is best for Indians and India?

Is an alliance with the Shite West best?

Or will the Global South,

led by Russia, China, Brazil, India, etc,

be better?

The consequences of the Afghanistan War are

Washington--NAYOYO is incapable

of defeating ignorant peasants

armed with small arms and home-made bombs. 

Further facts are being revealed

in Ukraine and Israel.

The Golden Billion

will commit any crime,

any war crime,

any crime against humanity,

rather than allow any reduction

in Shite West power.

John Kenneth Galbraith:

“People of privilege will always

risk their complete destruction

rather than surrender any material portion

of their privilege.”

Western ruling classes have made

"Western democracies" defenceless

against the traitorous greed

of the military-industrial complex.

Indians would be wise

to refuse Shite West billionaires

and their slave yokes.

George Carlin:

“It’s called the American dream

because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

Rafael Silva's avatar

How may these aggressive moves by the US in the region eventually come to a head?

James Schwartz's avatar

Modi did this to himself. He came to DC glad handing Trump like he was his buddy and then went immediately back to India and did the opposite. That isn’t gonna fly. India has plenty of US companies doing business there. Which employ a lot of people. You can’t have it both ways. You either enjoy what is being invested in your country and reciprocate or you go your own way. India has a choice to make and if Trump is making it harder more the better. The US is sick of Modi speaking out of both sides of his mouth and it’s about time he learns how dangerous that is.

Rafael Silva's avatar

Speaking out of both sides of his mouth? How about Trump's own such behavior regarding the proxy war in the Ukraine? (just one example) ...

The US couldn't be more idiotic by not pursuing détente with Russia + closer ties with India. No. Trump had to come back and act in your egregious, excessive, self-important American manner.

It's the world that is sick of you and your arrogance.

James Schwartz's avatar

I wouldn’t call the Russian Detente dead yet. Putin knows there’s much more money to be with the US than China.

Max Headroom's avatar

If you believe that making money is Putin's major concern and objective then you will never correctly understand and anticipate any of his geopolitical moves.

Securing Russia's future as a fully sovereign state that cannot be bullied by anyone and controls her own destiny - THAT's what Putin cares about!

If the price for that is foregoing a couple hundred billion $$ "business" he will gladly pay that price.