I tolerate pretty much anything other than ethno-national slurs and personal attacks, whether against others or especially against myself. When it comes to me, this also includes innuendo about my motives. Such comments toxify the conversation and violators risk being blocked.
so, in fact, they're (Turkey, Syria, Jordan, S.Arabia & possibly other countries) trying to sideline the Abraham's accord and IMEC line, correct? and if that's the case which countries will line up to re-constructed it? Spain, Italy, Russia which want desperate to sideline Israel, India, USA and the other benefactors, as and if I see it correctly?
I believe that Syria and Jordan approve of this project for economic reasons even though it's clear that it'll be strategically -- and possibly militarily -- instrumentalized by Turkiye against Israel.
I don't believe that Russia is against Israel, in fact, it would welcome Israel cutting Turkiye down to size and any exacerbation of their rivalry at minimum dividing Turkiye's focus from encircling Russia in the South Caucasus, Caspian Sea, and Central Asia.
Russia also isn't against India, at all, that's fake news from Pepe Escobar, who might have introduced that narrative into Alt-Media at the best of his self-admitted "friend in the European intel services" whose likely French since he lives there half the year:
By coincidence, Russia's Ambassador to India just declared that Russia is ready to supply India with as much oil and gas as it needs, which it obviously wouldn't do if it wanted to sideline India or felt "betrayed" by it like Pepe falsely claimed:
Yeah, but the Indians don't have licence to buy Russian oil, as per the US just announced wishes... the 30 day one provided with the war on Iran will not be renewed. US is trying to move everyone against Iran, as if Iran is the bad guy here.
No, no one believes that Russia is against India but is definitely against the IMEC for reasons which has to do with geopolitical reasons. (I don't know who P.Escobar is) I understand that there is a major geopolitical and energy resources game which USA, EU, Russia and China are entangled. Turkey is playing its cards with Libya, Syria and others as the "voice of Islam" and as a big peripheral power.
I've built an opinion based on the news and the moves of the engaging parties.
Before the Islamists under Erdogan took over it was friends. Just as with Iran before 1979.
Besides, if Russia could offload all its oil and gas to China instead of needing Turkey for accessing EU space, it would probably consider Turkey more soberly.
So you mean that Erdogan's lock, post-coup failure against him and his some years back, on power is as tight as the current Iranian's regime lock on power, if by quite different means (albeit both cases anathema to Western means)? Turkey and Israel appeared to have had good enough relations until fairly recently, going back a few decades I think. (Might have had still with Gulenists in charge.) This would be in trade relation and even it seemed possible inspiration or clandestine help in relation to US. Thus much of Turkish apparent animosity vs Israel can be seen as (putrid) domestic political play for appeal. In context of regional tumult brewing for some years and resource-related competition, much again does contributes to the un-friending. But why say it is eternal, "never", except to...?
I should add that our host's intolerance for slurs against nationals does not seem to apply to one country (he himself, good to see, seems to have repented from expressing such in the offensive parenthetical way, except in still "liking" comments containing what might be deemed as intolerable remarks re Israel).
Israel is paranoid and is focused on keeping its neighbors poor and of no military threat. Failed states are seen as useful and reduce the perceived threat. Syria, Iraq, and Libya are examples. Israel has a strategy of divide and conquer. Their support of Hamas as a counter weight to the plo is an example of this.
If the Istanbul - Hejaz - Medina railway is rebuilt the Israel, with US assistance, will bomb it anywhere along its tracks disregarding the national sovereignty of the host nations. They will bomb it relentlessly thus preventing its designated use. The only risk for Israel will be the severity of Turkiye's response, however USA will come to Israel's assistance should hostilities break out.
Looking at the whole global situation, it's striking how passive Russia and China are.
In China's case, you could even say they're waiting for the West to implode.
As a result, I foresee the US possibly ceasing to grant "licenses" to anyone very soon.
How was it even possible to enable a state to do this?
That's right.
Only through the military.
Only through blackmail.
Only through terror.
The day will come when India will say: We don't care.
China will say: Oh, if they've already started. We don't care either. And Russia: Okay, now it's convenient. We don't care either.
Dear US, you can all go to hell.
If two more prominent states join in, Wall Street will die within a week if it isn't shut down temporarily.
I hope I live to see that day.
If one nation starts something and a major power immediately follows suit, the mother of all terror in the world, the USA, in its current form, is history.
That would be the impetus needed.
With Erdoğan, Turkey can still be considered somewhat predictable. Without him, Turkey, as an important but unstable player, would be decisive in what happens in the Middle East.
Because:
This very historically grounded contribution shows us how far the world had already progressed before World War I, before the Western hegemon stifled any development that could have even remotely competed with it.
The world was then facing a great opportunity.
An opportunity that the Rockefellers turned into two world wars with 100 million dead and steered world history in a sinister direction.
COMMUNITY RULES
I tolerate pretty much anything other than ethno-national slurs and personal attacks, whether against others or especially against myself. When it comes to me, this also includes innuendo about my motives. Such comments toxify the conversation and violators risk being blocked.
so, in fact, they're (Turkey, Syria, Jordan, S.Arabia & possibly other countries) trying to sideline the Abraham's accord and IMEC line, correct? and if that's the case which countries will line up to re-constructed it? Spain, Italy, Russia which want desperate to sideline Israel, India, USA and the other benefactors, as and if I see it correctly?
I believe that Syria and Jordan approve of this project for economic reasons even though it's clear that it'll be strategically -- and possibly militarily -- instrumentalized by Turkiye against Israel.
I don't believe that Russia is against Israel, in fact, it would welcome Israel cutting Turkiye down to size and any exacerbation of their rivalry at minimum dividing Turkiye's focus from encircling Russia in the South Caucasus, Caspian Sea, and Central Asia.
Russia also isn't against India, at all, that's fake news from Pepe Escobar, who might have introduced that narrative into Alt-Media at the best of his self-admitted "friend in the European intel services" whose likely French since he lives there half the year:
https://korybko.substack.com/p/the-iranian-and-russian-ambassadors
By coincidence, Russia's Ambassador to India just declared that Russia is ready to supply India with as much oil and gas as it needs, which it obviously wouldn't do if it wanted to sideline India or felt "betrayed" by it like Pepe falsely claimed:
https://tass.com/politics/2117939
Yeah, but the Indians don't have licence to buy Russian oil, as per the US just announced wishes... the 30 day one provided with the war on Iran will not be renewed. US is trying to move everyone against Iran, as if Iran is the bad guy here.
No, no one believes that Russia is against India but is definitely against the IMEC for reasons which has to do with geopolitical reasons. (I don't know who P.Escobar is) I understand that there is a major geopolitical and energy resources game which USA, EU, Russia and China are entangled. Turkey is playing its cards with Libya, Syria and others as the "voice of Islam" and as a big peripheral power.
I've built an opinion based on the news and the moves of the engaging parties.
Turkiye will never be friends with Israel much to Americas regret
Before the Islamists under Erdogan took over it was friends. Just as with Iran before 1979.
Besides, if Russia could offload all its oil and gas to China instead of needing Turkey for accessing EU space, it would probably consider Turkey more soberly.
So you mean that Erdogan's lock, post-coup failure against him and his some years back, on power is as tight as the current Iranian's regime lock on power, if by quite different means (albeit both cases anathema to Western means)? Turkey and Israel appeared to have had good enough relations until fairly recently, going back a few decades I think. (Might have had still with Gulenists in charge.) This would be in trade relation and even it seemed possible inspiration or clandestine help in relation to US. Thus much of Turkish apparent animosity vs Israel can be seen as (putrid) domestic political play for appeal. In context of regional tumult brewing for some years and resource-related competition, much again does contributes to the un-friending. But why say it is eternal, "never", except to...?
I should add that our host's intolerance for slurs against nationals does not seem to apply to one country (he himself, good to see, seems to have repented from expressing such in the offensive parenthetical way, except in still "liking" comments containing what might be deemed as intolerable remarks re Israel).
Erdogen seems to be focused on #1, and still allows the export of oil to Israel from Azerbaijan. While being loudly pro Palestine playing to his base.
https://oilchange.org/publications/an-update-on-the-origins-of-israels-fuel-supply/
Gut. Erdo verdient ja auch gut an diesem Transit.
I am not sure what harm a railroad will do to Israel, which is able to strike infrastructure as far awaynas Iran with total impunity.
Israel is paranoid and is focused on keeping its neighbors poor and of no military threat. Failed states are seen as useful and reduce the perceived threat. Syria, Iraq, and Libya are examples. Israel has a strategy of divide and conquer. Their support of Hamas as a counter weight to the plo is an example of this.
No argument there, which is why they talk up Turkey as a threat, even though Turkey has been slavish towards Israel.
Anyway, the Americans have many pressure points over Turkey.
turks entertain ottoman dreams and play with fire.
there will not be peace in the middle east until all these muslim states are suppressed.
nothing but war and conflict since almost 1.5 millenniums i mean enough is enough.
heard that they are next tho, hope is true.
Turkey dreams of a return to Ottoman empire
Palestinian dreams from river to the sea
Israel dreams of a greater Israel
What could go wrong?
Wenn Israel größer würde, wäre es vielleicht so groß wie Österreich aktuell.
So viel zur Einordnung und "Wichtigkeit".
Diese ganzen Träume sind nachweislich nicht gut für die Weltgeschichte.
Weil die Staatsführer, die diese Träume haben, leider sehr schnell an Großmannssucht leiden.
Sage sogar ich als Visionär. ;-)
If the Istanbul - Hejaz - Medina railway is rebuilt the Israel, with US assistance, will bomb it anywhere along its tracks disregarding the national sovereignty of the host nations. They will bomb it relentlessly thus preventing its designated use. The only risk for Israel will be the severity of Turkiye's response, however USA will come to Israel's assistance should hostilities break out.
Looking at the whole global situation, it's striking how passive Russia and China are.
In China's case, you could even say they're waiting for the West to implode.
As a result, I foresee the US possibly ceasing to grant "licenses" to anyone very soon.
How was it even possible to enable a state to do this?
That's right.
Only through the military.
Only through blackmail.
Only through terror.
The day will come when India will say: We don't care.
China will say: Oh, if they've already started. We don't care either. And Russia: Okay, now it's convenient. We don't care either.
Dear US, you can all go to hell.
If two more prominent states join in, Wall Street will die within a week if it isn't shut down temporarily.
I hope I live to see that day.
If one nation starts something and a major power immediately follows suit, the mother of all terror in the world, the USA, in its current form, is history.
That would be the impetus needed.
With Erdoğan, Turkey can still be considered somewhat predictable. Without him, Turkey, as an important but unstable player, would be decisive in what happens in the Middle East.
Because:
This very historically grounded contribution shows us how far the world had already progressed before World War I, before the Western hegemon stifled any development that could have even remotely competed with it.
The world was then facing a great opportunity.
An opportunity that the Rockefellers turned into two world wars with 100 million dead and steered world history in a sinister direction.
All those countries have the same master.
Who this master will sacrifice when a choice will be obvious? Muslim NATO? Or Israël and Emirates?
Why did it take them that long? The true face of Israel was always there, for everyone to see it!