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Gilgamech's avatar

I can see how the Democrats benefit from derailing Trump's peace talks. Can you explain how the UK benefits from prolonging the war? It seems to do nothing but harm UK interests. Unless frustrating Russia and killing Slavs is an end in itself? Is about getting back into the EU? (An elite goal not in the national interest). What is the perceived benefit?

Andrew Korybko's avatar

SVR explained in their report that I hyperlinked to (use Google Translate) that British military-industrial companies profit from the continuance of hostilities. Geostrategically, my view has been that the UK wants to keep Russia and the EU divided and then further divide the EU in order to restore de facto control over Continental Europe by proxy.

Doug Ross's avatar

Mike Benz described it... American taxpayers are funding massive amounts of graft in the EU. https://directorblue.substack.com/p/top-20-insights-from-mike-benz-on

Gene Frenkle's avatar

What about Brexit?? Germany has always been the 800 pound gorilla in the EU and UK would probably prefer a free trade deal with America and Canada and Mexico in which it would play second fiddle to America.

Darras's avatar

Yes, during 40 years, UK did everything to sink UE and impose the US vision of Europe. In 2001, UK finally succeeded in this task. It never needed to stay in once it destroyed the initial project.

LJones's avatar

Brian Berletic has the best response to this question, imo.

US/UK/Israel are extending Russia while tormenting China around its periphery.

US's superpower is information warfare which it uses to coopt govts to install friendly regimes, which in turn do Washington's bidding. Terrorist events and local squabbles ensue.

Simultaneously, US is deploying military assets at strategic locations intending at some point to interrupt the flow of energy into China and perhaps out of Russia. When kinetic conflict breaks out, critical Chinese BRI infrastructure will be destroyed.

You can see what is happening in real time with the so-called secondary sanctions and incipient Russian oil tanker interdiction. It's a setup for eventual blockades.

It looks to me like this mixture of actions will inevitably provoke a kinetic response from China/Russia at some point in the near future.

Based on Russia's verbal barbs aimed at the UK, it looks like Russia is warning that UK will be the first victim if US doesnt back down.

This whole Ukraine situation has always looked like Game of Thrones bs, real world version.

RalfB's avatar

Defeating Russia has been one of the primary objectives of the Talmudist-Mammonist Cabal, and thus the City of London, ever since Stalin purged the Trotsky crowd, and wrestled Russia away from their control. It has taken on a new urgency since Putin broke away from the NWO; the formal declaration was made at Valdai in 2008, but Putin and the Stavka's policy has been consistent in that regard throughout his administration. Ukraine has been zombified and sicced on Russia in direct response to that declaration, following Brzezinsky's playbook.

Russia is the primary reason the Great Reset has been delayed, because the required economic collapse of the West cannot be executed safely while there are external powers still standing, viz. Russia and China. Now the Cabal is trying desperately, via Trump's policies, to shore up the already failing Western economy until Russia and China are brought in line, that is, regime changed and either colonized or collapsed. China, without Russia, can be collapsed economically or, at worst, bombed into a wasteland; but Russia is independent economically, and armed to the teeth with nukes. Soon China will be also, but it will take time; time that Russia is buying for it.

So, once again for the fourth time in history, Russia is the katechon to the Cabal's universal dominion; by now they hate Russia with a vengeance, and will stop at nothing to destroy it. British, or European, or for that matter American lives matter not a whit; the City of London is not operating in the interest of goyim cattle. And Britain is enslaved to the City, and follows policies imposed by it.

Farloticus's avatar

The only explanation that makes sense is that powerful individuals in the European power structure will be implicated in the corruption around the war once it’s finished.

litoralis's avatar

British, US and euro bankers, and the governments they sponsor, must be horrified at the potential ceasefire of hostilities. Both the initial coup and the ongoing war have been costly to run.

There will be massive solvency issues for these governments, banks and private equity firms. they have bern expecting to get a huge payout by pilfering ukrainian resources as well as from russian reparation payments and the retention of billions in frozen Russian funds.

Gene Frenkle's avatar

Americans don’t care about foreign affairs…Democrats are fine with a peace agreement so long as Zelensky isn’t forced to accept it. The key has always been America providing Ukraine with a security guarantee if Russia violates the agreement. So Putin could end the war tomorrow if he agrees to allow America to provide the security guarantee. And Zelensky has already stated he would relinquish territory to Russia and even step down as president if America provides the security guarantee.

Darras's avatar

No, you don't understand. It's not Ukraine which needs a guarantee, it's Russia.

Trump can stop this war tomorrow if he give true guarantees to Russia.

LJones's avatar

Trump cant give any guarantees.

Darras's avatar

Oh yes, I know that.

But Mr Frenkle annoy me with his blind vision of this war and only repeating like a parrot what sing CNN or NYT.

Feral Finster's avatar

Don't feed the troll.

Gene Frenkle's avatar

If I were a troll Andrew would ban me. Unlike most Substack publishers Andrew actually promotes free speech and civil discourse. He’s made clear that as long as I don’t call people the worst name in the book, Cheney Republican, I can continue commenting here.

Btw, Ted Cruz as the senator from Texas was the most anti-NS2 senator because he wants a robust global LNG spot market which Texas will dominate. Biden never cared about LNG exports until Putin invaded Ukraine!! Do that math!!

Gene Frenkle's avatar

Biden removed the Trump sanctions on Nord Stream 2. And Russia was conducting military operations beyond its borders when Biden removed the sanctions. Republicans were the political party that didn’t want NS2 completed because Republicans are the party of LNG exports. Biden didn’t want to screw over American consumers by making natural gas expensive which is exactly what Trump has done since taking office a second time. Crypto and LNG are the two dumbest things on the planet but Putin inadvertently turbocharged the global LNG market when he invaded Ukraine.

Darras's avatar

Ok, you are very confused and I will remind you a few chronology.

As usual USA cheated its word in including east European countries in NATO

USA launched coloured revolution and regime changes everywhere it could around Russia and even plot with Muslim terrorists in Tchechia.

USA payed a coloured revolution in Ukraine in 2004, following the Brezinsky doctrine about this country.

USA(Nuland) invested 5 billions dollars in Ukraine and finally sparked a fachist and nazi coup in 2014.

USA installed missiles systems in Poland and Romania that could shoot Moscow in 20 minutes.

USA installed military bases at Russian borders.

USA promoted and even imposed a Ukrainian regime which persecuted openly russian ethnics, speakers and even religious.

USA installed 3 military bases in Ukraine and a dozen of military laboratories.

Is it more clear for you if I replace Russia by USA and Ukraine by Mexico or Canada?

In November 2021, Russia issued an ultimatum to USA and Ukraine was just one point. There was 3 others that concerned directly USA.

USA laughed.

Gene Frenkle's avatar

And still Biden removed the Trump sanctions on NS2 so that Gazprom could continue making huge profits from the EU. I always point out Gazprom’s HQ looks like the Avengers HQ which means they did great for two whole decades when you argue America was undermining their business…so it doesn’t add up. Check out the skyscraper on Google satellite because it’s pretty awesome.

litoralis's avatar

good summary. Id also add that in Romania an anti-NATO russian leaning candidate Georgescu, who won the first round of presidential election votes, was then legally barred from participating.

Democracy is only a good thing when it doesnt threaten NATO missiles it seems.

Feral Finster's avatar

Don't feed the troll.

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Darras's avatar

Thank you, I'm happy to see that my humble theory about that was thought and demonstrated by a so prestigious mind.

It's nice to see that something you felt is, actually, probably true.

RalfB's avatar

Very recently, in the context of the Venezuelan debacle, the Brits have declared that they are suspending close intelligence cooperation with the US, ostensibly because they were concerned about the morality and legality of the boat sinkings.

This brings a smirk to my face, because since when are the British intelligence concerned with the morality of proceedings? They are as immoral as they come, and would have murdered those fishermen themselves without batting an eye, had it been even slightly in /their/ interest.

But now I am starting to suspect that the Venezuela-related rationale was just a hastily picked pretext. That the real reason for suspending cooperation was that they were and are planning hostile intelligence operations against the US, and of course they do not want to freely share information with the target. This leak is a case in point.

Feral Finster's avatar

No, they do not want the US to get sidetracked from the War On Russia.

Feral Finster's avatar

It's not that the uk "profits" in the sense that it makes money. Rather, the uk has a vested interest in continually stirring up strife so that the Americans will step in, allowing the brits to play their preferred role of "America's loyallest little bitch", standing shoulder to kneecap all stirring and brave!

Take away the so-called "Special Relationship" and the uk goes from Little Buddy to a flavor-challenged backwater nominally ruled by a bunch of inbreds where they won't shut up about long past glories and Male Buggery.

LJones's avatar

I tend to think two outcomes are possible;

1/ The Trump so-called plan succeeds because the US planners have decided on a new approach to tormenting Russia; or

2/ The plan is just more of the same old Trump buffoonery and showmanship, intended primary to ensure he doesnt get tarred with the war.

This show has gone on long enough. If Trump could have ended it, he might have. Though, based on what's happening in Israel/Gaza, I suspect Trump is fully on board with the neocon project and the idea that Trump is sympathetic to a multipolar world is well past it's due date.

Im starting to think the whole covid thing was actually intended to economically collapse China and Russia, or minimally do a test run of cutting off Chinese supply lines to the US and stimulate diversification of supplies where possible and stockpiling when not.

Based on all that, I think WWIII the kinetic version is on the agenda. And we all know what that may mean.

Feral Finster's avatar

The rulers of the West long ago determined that wwiii will be survivable for the People Who Matter, and besides, Russia doesn’t have the stones.

Kennewick Man's avatar

‘Based on all that, I think WWIII the kinetic version is on the agenda. And we all know what that may mean.’

Events and acts keep coming to the surface showing that the Gangs of Homicidal/Suicidal Maniacs that operate below the surface in Western governments are aiming for a planetary nuclear war. The Freak Show Operators spread gain of function research labs on a planetary scale, even in South America and inside the USA. When we combine these facts with the War on Russia their desires are fairly obvious. Their problem is that they have to insure population reduction in a timed manner on a planetary scale and China and Russia seems to be uncooperative. In Ukraine the goal is to sustain the flames of war indefinitely because events can be taken to a nuclear conflict there any day with the involvement of a few individuals once the usual suspects have an entry ticket to that country. Once a full scale nuclear conflict is triggered all rational considerations will be meaningless and the narratives (if any) will be set by the surviving players. The key play is a coordinated, timed application of nuclear and biological warfare that will kill off over 90% of the planet’s population in a rapid manner. The long view shows that Trump is supporting the above plan he just has an emotional issue with the full destruction of the New York area. This is why he keeps trying to grab Canada and Greenland. This is why he keeps psycho bubbling about a Golden Dome. And this is why the Russians are surfacing nuclear subs with ballistic missiles in the Arctic. And this is why the only option we have is a rapid spread of Populist Governments in the Western World to put an end to this game.

LJones's avatar

Events sure seem to comport with this dire view, but of course if this is true it must be planned by very few, bc you might otherwise expect the intentions would leak.

An atom of corroboration is the well-known deagle website, which at one time predicted a 25% drop in US population, which was just weird to any normal person.

Apart from that all we really have is broad evidence of psychopathy populating the empire leadership. The number of Ukrainian dead as of now is almost beyond belief.

I honestly dont know what to do to stop this madness. While the historical roots of empire are really deep, it feels like Dick Cheney took it all to a new level back in 1992 and there has been no looking back ever since.

And Americans, for the most part propagandized since birth, look at you like you're insane if you bring up the subject of Empire. You'd think after Star Wars, Dune, and Game of Thrones they'd at least be open to the idea there's a bigger game afoot. Maybe I dont have the details right or the prediction fails, but the fact that statements about most everything in the media is a lie should be a clue.

I guess the best we can do is try to put the puzzle together and then put the picture out there.

ikester8's avatar

These calls could just as easily have been tapped and leaked by the NSA, but it's a question of motive. The UK has been consistently Russophobic for centuries. Having them in the Five Eyes group just gives them access to intelligence they might not otherwise have, which can work against US interests.

Ram Koganti's avatar

Who needs enemies when you have "friends" like UK.

Ohio Barbarian's avatar

LOL. Perfidious Albion rides again! This time, however, it seems that the British Government has nothing left in its toolbox EXCEPT perfidy, and it's not even working on their own people anymore.

Feral Finster's avatar

What are you talking about? Starmer may be unpopular, but so what? His orders are carried out just the same.

barnabus's avatar

The leaked 28 points were actually the bona-fide US proposal. It is basically ceasefire at line of control plus now legal confiscation of the seized Russian assets for whatever. The so-called demilitarization of the Ukrainian held Donetzk territory would still be held by Ukraine as no Russian troops will be allowed in, and the Ukrainian troops there would be relabeled as "police".

That US go back to make this proposal even more unworkable is in Russian interest.

Mad Max's avatar

UK has been the driving force behind the Ukraine war and all actions against Russia since the fall of the USSR.

UK has predominant influence in the US, even more than Israel, so it's not a surprise they are behind the leaks.

Glad Russia is finally coming to this realisation although far to late.

Valerie Eisman's avatar

The Hill has run no less than 2 articles alone by Republican American senators objecting to Witkoff's purported telling a Russian official how Putin should respond to Trump's peace plan or present one of his own like the Gaza (faux) Peace Plan.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5622854-fitzpatrick-criticizes-witkoff-ukraine-russia-peace/

Valerie Eisman's avatar

It would be totally in line with Britain sabotaging previous peace negotiations thanks to Boris Johnson telling Zelensky not to make peace with Russia early on in the war. Britain has been about the business of attacking Trump for a long time. And Russia too. Britain proposed using an atomic bomb on Russia at the end of WW2 and Roosevelt nixed that. Britain has a very long role of anti-Russian history. Their aristocracy were all pro-Nazi during WW2 for the most part.

Darras's avatar

It seems that the acrimony of England toward Russia is less old than that of France which began near Louis XV when this (disastrous) king married a pole princess.

England was the first western country which trade with Russia at the time of Yvan IV Grosny(1570). And they were allied against France at the time of Napoleon.

I believe that the quarrel began near the halft 19e century for two reasons: the weakening of Ottoman empire at the avantage of Russia, what caused the Crimea war of 1853( allied with french poodles), and the russian advance in central Asia toward India.

But beyond that, I think that is a deep cause in this quarrel. Until the end of 17e century, Europe only knew autocratic monarchic systems for 12 century. At this time, English made rebirth the former oligarchic system of Roman republic and called it "parliamentary", more sexy. This system came from the Hollander one and extend naturally to young USA and the to France Revolution and what followed it. From this time, England oligarchy( and US, it's often the same) fought and destroyed all the autocratic systems which can contest it own way: Germany, Austria, China, Russian empire, Nazism and Fachism, USSR.

They hoped that the growth of China would have create a new oligarchy which would had taken the power. Missed. Now China is an enemy.

They was also sure that an oligarchy had taken the power in Russia. Missed too. Even if there is a Russian parliament, Russia have again all the signs of an autocratie.

Why oligarchy hate and fear autocracy?

Because autocracy is based on an alliance of a people and a man to control oligarchy.

But like said miss Lizzy Stone few weeks ago it's only my lucubrations. :)

Kennewick Man's avatar

‘I believe that the quarrel began near the halft 19e century for two reasons: the weakening of Ottoman empire at the avantage of Russia, what caused the Crimea war of 1853( allied with french poodles), and the russian advance in central Asia toward India.’

You are right on. The British moved in and corrupted the Ottoman Empire to the point of bankruptcy, sucking them bone dry of their cash flow. At the same time the Imperial Russian Navy was kicking them around already starting with Catherine the Great (r. 1762-1796). In other words the Russians were butchering the cash cow of the British and this took them to Sevastopol.

Darras's avatar

And once more, they did this war with the blood of 200 000 Turks and 120 000 French killed.

For this war which was THEIR war, UK lost only 20 000 soldiers.

Darras's avatar

Zelensky just said that I've will not come alone to meet Trump but with Europeans.

If Trump allows that, it would mean everything.

Walter DuBlanica's avatar

The Brits are jealous and feel unferior to Russia. that is why they hate them. Brits were an empire. But today they do not amount to much.

Darras's avatar

At the beginning of the XVIIe century, England was already a tiny power.

But , especially after the invasion by Hollanders and their brillant scoundrel king William Orange who became king of England, the tiny England became a brillant brave hyena disguised in a majestic lion.

In one century, it became the main power of the world.

That's England, a brave submissive people leaded by brillant scoundrels.

Alas, if their leaders are still scoundrels, they are no more brillant.

Just dumb.

Reason why UK politicians often look like a sketch of Monty Python or Mister Bean.

And the most hopeless is, like for three centuries, European leaders follow and copy their english models.

RalfB's avatar

Britain was the Golem until WWI, and for the last century of that time has been the dominant world power. But German/French and American industrialization has reduced the power leverage of colonial assets, and without these, Britain is puny. So, at the time of WWI, the USA became the new Golem, enforcing the Cabal's will in the world. Still ruled from the City of London and from Zurich, because the Cabal didn't want to call attention to itself by openly transplanting itself, like it did before (Venice->Amsterdam->London). While new communication technologies mean that the world can be ruled remotely, from whatever convenient lair.

But now the vampire masters have been too greedy, and have sucked even the Golem dry until it is shambling, on its last legs. Hopefully, when it collapses, it will take its masters with it.