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"...they don’t have anything to do with the Russian[s] and[/or] Chinese..."

Makes sense to me: forums, or 'groups' or whatever you want to call them, should be composed of people (or nations) who stand to gain the most by participating in them. As the EU prepares for a long, slow journey down, together with the US, as other poles, like Africa and India, begin to move in the opposite direction, there's much to be gained by all, where they meet in the middle, to find ways for everyone to coordinate and benefit from the move(ments) they're all going through. Russia and China, arguably, aren't really on the same page in this respect. I think this is excellent timing: while Russia and China judiciously sit it out for a while to see how it all pans out, let the EU and US see how India and Africa can help them, and vice-versa. Sounds like a win-win to me!

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