Far from being a failed so-called “fascist and terrorist coup” attempt, it convincingly appears as though Sunday’s sequence of events was artificially manufactured via collusion between the American and Brazilian “deep states” in order to advance their shared ideological agendas.
I could not disagree more with Nimmo. Unlike Lula Bolsonaro proved himself to be both soverign and nationalist whereas Lula sold the country out completely to the Neo Liberal elements.
If Bolsonaro was so tied to the US he would be in power today.
Just analyze Lula's inagural address
1 "Democracy" forever
2 Green & the Amazon belongs to the world
3 Vaccines (mandatory) for all
4 Sustainability programs
5 Diversity diversity diversity & inclusivity
There is nothing there that respects national sovereignty in the least.
Que soberania Bolsonaro demonstrou, nas privatizações ou ajudando seus amigos de sempre, entendo a desconfiança no Lula , mas não consigo entender a cegueira em acreditar que o bolsonaro seja cristão ou patriota, está longe disto, a realidade se sobrepõe a narrativa.
Enfim vamos aguardar, em um mundo capitalista todas as opiniões estão atreladas a interesses, inclusive essa que acabei de ler.
Your simple idea of this situation is waht turn you blind for what happens in the wolrd. Lula's thinking is old and populist. Give money to poor people and became a bigger state do not solve problems at no country in the wolrd. Bolsonaro promoted freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of business and freedom of choice. All this nazi, dictatorship and etc glueed on him is bullshit of all Lula's pleasants. If you are comunist, i accept that. But be honest, besides it seems completly impossible for comunists...
Anyone in Brazil for Lula round will remember that he was extremely authoritarian. His dream was to build a thousand prisons. He also blackmailed his constitutants into voting for Dilma by threatening to withdraw the Bolsa de Família welfare payments. There was nothing fun about Lula. Just a periodical commodity boom that doesn't exist this time.
Lula doesn't have much to do, besides what he already does (and he does it very well!). For us Brazilians, we can only wait and hope that Putin manages to deliver a devastating blow to Biden. While this does not happen, we will continue to be looted and enslaved by the "owners of the world" (Bill Gates, Elon Musk and others).
Elon Musk? He is very much an outsider, TBH. Have you not been following him? The establishment it trying to take him down, 50 hit pieces a day. He is too friendly to Russians, and supported Great Barrington. This does not mean he is perfect, far from it, but the neoliberal Bidenites cannibals are all over him. They want him destroyed.
Sorry, I really didn't have much information about him... Just that he is among the 10 richest people in the world. His interest, here in Brazil (I searched on Google), is mainly lithium to compose the manufacture of his electric cars. These people don't get rich with philanthropy... Quite the contrary!
That is what I was referring to. we know the backside of green energy is the batteries, and lithium. I so wish hydrogen fuel cells had advanced. But, you will not see these neoliberal and their wokester lefties mentioning that, they are just doing everything in their power to transfer all there hate from TRUMP/PUTIN to Elon. How many times a day do i have to read, Oh, Elon is just like Trump, this, that. Comments and articles are never the things I might criticize Elon and his industries over. I used to hate him, but found he is a far more complex nuanced person, and yes, flawed. He is a product of the 90s tech boom, autistic, Aspergers, and insane workaholic. As far as personality, the people who say he is JUST LIKE TRUMP over and over, JFC, complete mental illness.
If I had to pick a feudal lord from the oligarchs, perhaps Elon would be the one, those his Aspergers style is rather chaotic and not everyone's cup of tea.
Yes, his wonderful wife left him for a reason! I once thought he relatively benign, but when Gates Foundation first started, I looked at their portfolio of who they donated. I was so so disappointed, and never took the foundation seriously. Now look where he headed. It will be millions of miles of potatoes and why?
The disorganization and apparent lack of leaders in this far-right assault on the headquarters of public powers in Brasilia proves the article right, since it benefits Lula, who will thus be able to consolidate his government. It must be remembered that since Lula's electoral victory, there was talk of the risk of violence to prevent his inauguration, while Bolsonaro fled to Miami. Yesterday, various Brazilian media outlets spoke of the passivity with which part of the police reacted to the assault, while some of their agents even bought "coconut water" on the outskirts of the Brazilian Congress.
It should also be remembered that Lula lacks a majority in Congress, which is why he is forced to negotiate with Bolsonarists from other parties, including the former president's Liberal Party, which had put his government in a weak situation.
For the rest, the article is also correct in pointing out that Lula is well regarded in Washington, since in foreign policy he has collaborated with the interventionism of the United States, for example in the case of the invasion promoted by the UN and the OAS in Haiti. It is a case similar to that of Amlo in Mexico - who today celebrates a North American summit in Mexico City with Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau - and has spoken out for creating "a commercial bloc in the Americas" capable of competing against other regions, that is, China.
If one was in Brazil it reeked of a selection not an election especially in round two where the chief Pooh-Bah of the STF STE denied the PT request to keep the polls open until 8pm indicating that it would not be necessary.
I prefer you look at the 3 hour Argentinian report Brazil was stolen by Ed Crimedo (I may have the wrong spelling ) that analyzed major improbabilities with the Urnas machines.
How could the cross on both the first and second round be at 68% improbable.
Burns, Nuland, Sullivan warning Bolsonaro to let the "elections" proceed defacto without question.
On the second turn or runoff the PT Lula party asked for an extension of the voting booths to stay open past closing time at 5pm until 8pm. Moraes smiles and said "that will not be necessary".
All the time the US was sending threats to Brazil that any interference would invoke "sanctions" worse then Russia and Iran together.
Common sense also dictates that the real power Alckman harnesses large international globalist concerns which required the now President to make major compromises contrary to the national interests of the republic.
This report is bullshit, and so is the information you are peddling. There are no credible reports of fraud in vote tallying on Brazil's election, whether in the general election or the runoff.
There are, on the other hand, a number of blatant violations of electoral law perpetrated by the incumbent, such as the massive boost in social benefits, most of which of questionable social value to say the least (such as mandatory loans to food stamp beneficiaries with disregard to any criteria, which the federal government will probably have to take over and forgive), on the run-up to the election, and also the obstruction of transport venues by the federal police on the day of the polls (which is the event that triggered the request to extend voting which you are reffering to).
The mere fact that you refer to the electoral court as "STE", which is a laughable mistake common in mass messaging services ran by Bolsonaro supporters, indicates that you have no idea what you're talking about and your "sources" come from known networks of false and misleading information. I would advise Derek and every other reader to disregard anything written by David Sigal, as it's all propaganda and false information.
There isn't a single ad hominem on the comment I wrote.
I merely stated some facts about the sources you're basing your position on and provided context to information cited without any substance.
"The cross on both the first and second round be at 68%" is proof of absolutely nothing. Seems to me that you are basically making bold and preposterous claims ("selection not an election") with no proof to back it other than laughable retoric ("Moraes smiled"; "cross at 68%") manufactured by Bolsonaro's camp.
If you think any of this is ad hominem, I can only be sorry that you misconstrue what that concept means.
Another thing that struck me as odd, though this might be far fetched, if Bolsonaro had any control over this or was the cause, seems our leaders would be conferring with him in FLORIDA regarding how to reduce escalation. I am trying to imagine how all this helps Lula?
I have been battling floods in California. Nothing like this since 1992.
The other day someone did mention US could be involved, and I figured it would not be surprising. The media on this is insane. Did you see the Rolling Stone blaming Elon Musk for the Brazil riots? I really do not know how he takes the 50x hit pieces, most delusional, a day while losing a gazillion as the economy tanks.
I have not had time to dig on the Brazil. I will pass this to my friend in Brazil. You know Greenwald lives in Brazil? I still perceive Lula as a founder of BRICS.
Lula has always been a darling of Washington, the IMF, World bank, development bank and all things neo liberal. His financial minister was straight form the Bank of Boston.
Part of the BRICS hype was the strong trade between Brazil and China during the commodity years. Far more optics then true multipolarity.
Bolsonaro demonstrated real multipolarity with his visit to Russia to secure fertilizer along with attempting to limit the WHO running roughshod over the population (he was overridden in that effort by the STF and ANVISA).
He also defended Brazilian sovereignty to the Amazon which is absolutely not allowed.
You really didn't researched enough, Bolsonaro had sold parts of Petrobrás (oil state company), manly the oil refineries, trying to liquidate our semiconductor industry (the unique in Latin America).
His government has nothing to do with sovereignty, the economy minister is Paulo Guedes is a neoliberal Chicago boy, unfortunately that government weakened all sovereign tools for a independent nation in a multipolar world.
This. Lula is not a neoliberal sellout like Bolsonaro was. Lula is even proposing creating an alternative to the USD for Latin American trade. Why would an "IMF/World Bank darling" be advocating for that?
If one looks at Lulas first term one sees that he was the darling of the western three letter global organizations. In spite of BRICS and rhetoric he was as neoliberal as possible bolstered by a commodity boom.
Bolsonaro demonstrated true multipolarity when he visited Moscow at a crucial moment to secure fertilizer for Brazil. I see nothing wrong with privatizing Petrobras. As long as 51% remains in Brazilian hands. Government handling of it has been a disaster in the past.
I seem to be getting total opposite opinions with both being backed by facts. Not sure how to take this one. Will be linking both of your takes today @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
I could not disagree more with Nimmo. Unlike Lula Bolsonaro proved himself to be both soverign and nationalist whereas Lula sold the country out completely to the Neo Liberal elements.
If Bolsonaro was so tied to the US he would be in power today.
Just analyze Lula's inagural address
1 "Democracy" forever
2 Green & the Amazon belongs to the world
3 Vaccines (mandatory) for all
4 Sustainability programs
5 Diversity diversity diversity & inclusivity
There is nothing there that respects national sovereignty in the least.
Que soberania Bolsonaro demonstrou, nas privatizações ou ajudando seus amigos de sempre, entendo a desconfiança no Lula , mas não consigo entender a cegueira em acreditar que o bolsonaro seja cristão ou patriota, está longe disto, a realidade se sobrepõe a narrativa.
Enfim vamos aguardar, em um mundo capitalista todas as opiniões estão atreladas a interesses, inclusive essa que acabei de ler.
It appears that basic liberty doesn't enter into your equation neither does national soverignity.
The selected government is there at the behest of Davos, digital imposition, selling out the Amazon and forcing medical tyranny ok the populace.
Your simple idea of this situation is waht turn you blind for what happens in the wolrd. Lula's thinking is old and populist. Give money to poor people and became a bigger state do not solve problems at no country in the wolrd. Bolsonaro promoted freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of business and freedom of choice. All this nazi, dictatorship and etc glueed on him is bullshit of all Lula's pleasants. If you are comunist, i accept that. But be honest, besides it seems completly impossible for comunists...
Anyone in Brazil for Lula round will remember that he was extremely authoritarian. His dream was to build a thousand prisons. He also blackmailed his constitutants into voting for Dilma by threatening to withdraw the Bolsa de Família welfare payments. There was nothing fun about Lula. Just a periodical commodity boom that doesn't exist this time.
I smelled USA as soon as this happened. Bolsonaro has been in Fla
Lula doesn't have much to do, besides what he already does (and he does it very well!). For us Brazilians, we can only wait and hope that Putin manages to deliver a devastating blow to Biden. While this does not happen, we will continue to be looted and enslaved by the "owners of the world" (Bill Gates, Elon Musk and others).
Elon Musk? He is very much an outsider, TBH. Have you not been following him? The establishment it trying to take him down, 50 hit pieces a day. He is too friendly to Russians, and supported Great Barrington. This does not mean he is perfect, far from it, but the neoliberal Bidenites cannibals are all over him. They want him destroyed.
Sorry, I really didn't have much information about him... Just that he is among the 10 richest people in the world. His interest, here in Brazil (I searched on Google), is mainly lithium to compose the manufacture of his electric cars. These people don't get rich with philanthropy... Quite the contrary!
That is what I was referring to. we know the backside of green energy is the batteries, and lithium. I so wish hydrogen fuel cells had advanced. But, you will not see these neoliberal and their wokester lefties mentioning that, they are just doing everything in their power to transfer all there hate from TRUMP/PUTIN to Elon. How many times a day do i have to read, Oh, Elon is just like Trump, this, that. Comments and articles are never the things I might criticize Elon and his industries over. I used to hate him, but found he is a far more complex nuanced person, and yes, flawed. He is a product of the 90s tech boom, autistic, Aspergers, and insane workaholic. As far as personality, the people who say he is JUST LIKE TRUMP over and over, JFC, complete mental illness.
Musk is not your enemy but Gates et al are.
If I had to pick a feudal lord from the oligarchs, perhaps Elon would be the one, those his Aspergers style is rather chaotic and not everyone's cup of tea.
Yes, his wonderful wife left him for a reason! I once thought he relatively benign, but when Gates Foundation first started, I looked at their portfolio of who they donated. I was so so disappointed, and never took the foundation seriously. Now look where he headed. It will be millions of miles of potatoes and why?
The disorganization and apparent lack of leaders in this far-right assault on the headquarters of public powers in Brasilia proves the article right, since it benefits Lula, who will thus be able to consolidate his government. It must be remembered that since Lula's electoral victory, there was talk of the risk of violence to prevent his inauguration, while Bolsonaro fled to Miami. Yesterday, various Brazilian media outlets spoke of the passivity with which part of the police reacted to the assault, while some of their agents even bought "coconut water" on the outskirts of the Brazilian Congress.
It should also be remembered that Lula lacks a majority in Congress, which is why he is forced to negotiate with Bolsonarists from other parties, including the former president's Liberal Party, which had put his government in a weak situation.
For the rest, the article is also correct in pointing out that Lula is well regarded in Washington, since in foreign policy he has collaborated with the interventionism of the United States, for example in the case of the invasion promoted by the UN and the OAS in Haiti. It is a case similar to that of Amlo in Mexico - who today celebrates a North American summit in Mexico City with Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau - and has spoken out for creating "a commercial bloc in the Americas" capable of competing against other regions, that is, China.
If one was in Brazil it reeked of a selection not an election especially in round two where the chief Pooh-Bah of the STF STE denied the PT request to keep the polls open until 8pm indicating that it would not be necessary.
Were you there?
I prefer you look at the 3 hour Argentinian report Brazil was stolen by Ed Crimedo (I may have the wrong spelling ) that analyzed major improbabilities with the Urnas machines.
How could the cross on both the first and second round be at 68% improbable.
Burns, Nuland, Sullivan warning Bolsonaro to let the "elections" proceed defacto without question.
On the second turn or runoff the PT Lula party asked for an extension of the voting booths to stay open past closing time at 5pm until 8pm. Moraes smiles and said "that will not be necessary".
All the time the US was sending threats to Brazil that any interference would invoke "sanctions" worse then Russia and Iran together.
Common sense also dictates that the real power Alckman harnesses large international globalist concerns which required the now President to make major compromises contrary to the national interests of the republic.
This report is bullshit, and so is the information you are peddling. There are no credible reports of fraud in vote tallying on Brazil's election, whether in the general election or the runoff.
There are, on the other hand, a number of blatant violations of electoral law perpetrated by the incumbent, such as the massive boost in social benefits, most of which of questionable social value to say the least (such as mandatory loans to food stamp beneficiaries with disregard to any criteria, which the federal government will probably have to take over and forgive), on the run-up to the election, and also the obstruction of transport venues by the federal police on the day of the polls (which is the event that triggered the request to extend voting which you are reffering to).
The mere fact that you refer to the electoral court as "STE", which is a laughable mistake common in mass messaging services ran by Bolsonaro supporters, indicates that you have no idea what you're talking about and your "sources" come from known networks of false and misleading information. I would advise Derek and every other reader to disregard anything written by David Sigal, as it's all propaganda and false information.
Ok TSE. Anyone who fills a page with ad hominem attacks by nature should be disregarded.
There isn't a single ad hominem on the comment I wrote.
I merely stated some facts about the sources you're basing your position on and provided context to information cited without any substance.
"The cross on both the first and second round be at 68%" is proof of absolutely nothing. Seems to me that you are basically making bold and preposterous claims ("selection not an election") with no proof to back it other than laughable retoric ("Moraes smiled"; "cross at 68%") manufactured by Bolsonaro's camp.
If you think any of this is ad hominem, I can only be sorry that you misconstrue what that concept means.
Perfeito. Concordo em grau, gênero e número. Quase um Modi indiano. Guardada as devidas proporções.
Perfect. I agree in degree, gender and number with the analysis. Almost an Indian Modi. keeping the proper proportions
Wow great piece Andrew. Good Ole America at it again eh!
Another thing that struck me as odd, though this might be far fetched, if Bolsonaro had any control over this or was the cause, seems our leaders would be conferring with him in FLORIDA regarding how to reduce escalation. I am trying to imagine how all this helps Lula?
I have been battling floods in California. Nothing like this since 1992.
The other day someone did mention US could be involved, and I figured it would not be surprising. The media on this is insane. Did you see the Rolling Stone blaming Elon Musk for the Brazil riots? I really do not know how he takes the 50x hit pieces, most delusional, a day while losing a gazillion as the economy tanks.
I have not had time to dig on the Brazil. I will pass this to my friend in Brazil. You know Greenwald lives in Brazil? I still perceive Lula as a founder of BRICS.
Lula has always been a darling of Washington, the IMF, World bank, development bank and all things neo liberal. His financial minister was straight form the Bank of Boston.
Part of the BRICS hype was the strong trade between Brazil and China during the commodity years. Far more optics then true multipolarity.
Bolsonaro demonstrated real multipolarity with his visit to Russia to secure fertilizer along with attempting to limit the WHO running roughshod over the population (he was overridden in that effort by the STF and ANVISA).
He also defended Brazilian sovereignty to the Amazon which is absolutely not allowed.
You really didn't researched enough, Bolsonaro had sold parts of Petrobrás (oil state company), manly the oil refineries, trying to liquidate our semiconductor industry (the unique in Latin America).
His government has nothing to do with sovereignty, the economy minister is Paulo Guedes is a neoliberal Chicago boy, unfortunately that government weakened all sovereign tools for a independent nation in a multipolar world.
This. Lula is not a neoliberal sellout like Bolsonaro was. Lula is even proposing creating an alternative to the USD for Latin American trade. Why would an "IMF/World Bank darling" be advocating for that?
If one looks at Lulas first term one sees that he was the darling of the western three letter global organizations. In spite of BRICS and rhetoric he was as neoliberal as possible bolstered by a commodity boom.
Bolsonaro demonstrated true multipolarity when he visited Moscow at a crucial moment to secure fertilizer for Brazil. I see nothing wrong with privatizing Petrobras. As long as 51% remains in Brazilian hands. Government handling of it has been a disaster in the past.
Andrew, reading your analysis on this and reading some others as well such as Kurt Nimmo
https://kurtnimmo.substack.com/p/usual-suspects-in-the-attempted-coup
I seem to be getting total opposite opinions with both being backed by facts. Not sure how to take this one. Will be linking both of your takes today @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Perfect. I agree in degree, gender and number with the analysis. Almost an Indian Modi. keeping the proper proportions