None of Poland’s objective national interests, nor any of its top two parties’ domestic partisan ones, would be advanced by intervening in Ukraine under any circumstances.
These are, indeed, excellent reasons not to undertake actions that would add fuel to the fire and risk bringing an already explosive situation to the point of igniting a conflict with incalculable consequences. However, as in the USA and Europe, it is not taking into account the extremists and psychopaths in charge, who remain convinced that they could emerge victorious from such a furnace! They are the ones who, unfortunately, are calling the shots!…
Poland is finding out that joining NATO can be likened to a high schooler joining a street gang: there are immediate perks, such as now you're one of the popular kids. However, the downside is that you're now going to have to participate in the gang's fights, which could lead to serious consequences like the death of your people and your nation.
Forgive me for repeating myself, but those readers familiar with the "Looney Tunes" canon may recall the little yappy dog that follows Spike The Bulldog around, singing Spike's praises, grossly overestimating his importance, and getting slapped around by Spike or getting Spike into fights.
Europe is a whole pack of yappy little dogs. The concern from the point of view of the United States is that it cannot be seen to leave its ruropean poodles out to dry.
All this assumes that the Poles are capable of rationally figure out what is good for them. Unfortunatelly, the governing elite has sold out to the Project Ukraine,
However... globalists have proven in the past to go against the will of We, The People and bring about the results they were after: 1) I WW, provoked in order to bring about the League of Nations, 2) II WW, provoked in order to bring about the UN, and .... 3) many attempts to provoke III WW using Russia, in order to bring the Final Solution; NWO. We all witnessed it during "Operation CONvid" and more... My hope is.. that there's been a lot done behind the curtain to remove these monsters from positions of power. Case in point: when was the last time you heard anythuing re: The Great Reset?, or Build Back Better? blessings
Are Polish brainwashed as most European citizens are? By those pools it look like
Do they really don't recognize the 2008 and 2014 CIA coup or they sided with Nazi Ukrainians?
Do they care of making money out of this war and why are giving plenty of space for American Nazi troops and Air force? Is it to thank US/CIA for Solidarność win?
There are some practical military concerns to be considered. A well known fact in WW2 is that Polish troops were not as many as the German's, not as well trained and equipped. A less discussed subject is that Poland shares a long border with Germany and without many natural obstacles, plus there was East Prussia. The effective length of the front benefited the more numerous Germans and punished the logistically weaker Poland.
Poland today still borders Kaliningrad, the most militarized zone in Europe and armed to the teeth. Belarus has a much smaller army than Poland but some Russian forces are already inside Belarus. Unless Poland launches a surprise attack on Belarus now, the Polish military has no significant advantage over the Belarus forces backed by Russia's contingent force. If there is indeed a truce and Poland sends in a peace-keeping force, the length of the frontline to be covered would be too long for the existing force even with the 200K already called up. And a truce allows Russia to send back forces to Kaliningrad and Belarus. Given that the German army is weak and the Baltic forces are tiny Poland will become the second Ukraine. Or split between Russia and NATO.
If there is truce or even an all-sides happy-peace treaty with Ukraine, the situation in the Baltic sea and the Poland-Lithuania-Kaliningrad triangle will be cleared too. In the same go. One would only expect kinetic action around Poland if the war in Ukraine drags on and goes badly for the West.
For example, Col Roderich Kiesewetter, the military affairs person for the opposition German CDU in the Bundestag was suggesting quite recently Lithuania and Poland should close off the Suwalki corridor for Kaliningrad. So far, it looks like CDU will be the most powerful party after the coming German elections, and the pro-war Green party is happy to form a coalition with them. Even then, most of the action will probably be on Lithuanian soil. Germany is moving military there, and they will probably be supported by Swedes and Finns.
I agree in general. But I don't think NATO will allow a long-term peace in Ukraine or Europe. Therefore the war will drag on and propagate. The issue is to keep all the propagated fires under control when the main battlefield quites down. If the Suwalki Corridor is indeed closed, that would be enough justification (to Russia internally) for Russian forces to break open that corridor by force. Still, it would be difficult to maintain as several WW2 examples had shown. Alternatively, Russia can afford to wait and depend on naval transportation. If the seaborne path is also under blockade, then under international laws, Russians have sufficient reasons to declare wars. Yes WW3, but the West is unlikely to win that either. Otherwise, I don't see why Russia/Belarus would want to take land-based offensive into Poland or the Baltics for any reason.
Closure of Suwalki propagated by Col Roderich Kiesewetter was/is an alternative to invasion of the Kursk oblast. However, because the closure would need to be executed by Poles and Lithuanians, it would have meant an open involvement of NATO countries in the conflict - beyond just gun running and supplying mercenaries.
These are, indeed, excellent reasons not to undertake actions that would add fuel to the fire and risk bringing an already explosive situation to the point of igniting a conflict with incalculable consequences. However, as in the USA and Europe, it is not taking into account the extremists and psychopaths in charge, who remain convinced that they could emerge victorious from such a furnace! They are the ones who, unfortunately, are calling the shots!…
Poland is finding out that joining NATO can be likened to a high schooler joining a street gang: there are immediate perks, such as now you're one of the popular kids. However, the downside is that you're now going to have to participate in the gang's fights, which could lead to serious consequences like the death of your people and your nation.
Forgive me for repeating myself, but those readers familiar with the "Looney Tunes" canon may recall the little yappy dog that follows Spike The Bulldog around, singing Spike's praises, grossly overestimating his importance, and getting slapped around by Spike or getting Spike into fights.
Europe is a whole pack of yappy little dogs. The concern from the point of view of the United States is that it cannot be seen to leave its ruropean poodles out to dry.
All this assumes that the Poles are capable of rationally figure out what is good for them. Unfortunatelly, the governing elite has sold out to the Project Ukraine,
100% correct.
However... globalists have proven in the past to go against the will of We, The People and bring about the results they were after: 1) I WW, provoked in order to bring about the League of Nations, 2) II WW, provoked in order to bring about the UN, and .... 3) many attempts to provoke III WW using Russia, in order to bring the Final Solution; NWO. We all witnessed it during "Operation CONvid" and more... My hope is.. that there's been a lot done behind the curtain to remove these monsters from positions of power. Case in point: when was the last time you heard anythuing re: The Great Reset?, or Build Back Better? blessings
Are Polish brainwashed as most European citizens are? By those pools it look like
Do they really don't recognize the 2008 and 2014 CIA coup or they sided with Nazi Ukrainians?
Do they care of making money out of this war and why are giving plenty of space for American Nazi troops and Air force? Is it to thank US/CIA for Solidarność win?
The only thing that matters in Polish politics is the American command.
There are some practical military concerns to be considered. A well known fact in WW2 is that Polish troops were not as many as the German's, not as well trained and equipped. A less discussed subject is that Poland shares a long border with Germany and without many natural obstacles, plus there was East Prussia. The effective length of the front benefited the more numerous Germans and punished the logistically weaker Poland.
Poland today still borders Kaliningrad, the most militarized zone in Europe and armed to the teeth. Belarus has a much smaller army than Poland but some Russian forces are already inside Belarus. Unless Poland launches a surprise attack on Belarus now, the Polish military has no significant advantage over the Belarus forces backed by Russia's contingent force. If there is indeed a truce and Poland sends in a peace-keeping force, the length of the frontline to be covered would be too long for the existing force even with the 200K already called up. And a truce allows Russia to send back forces to Kaliningrad and Belarus. Given that the German army is weak and the Baltic forces are tiny Poland will become the second Ukraine. Or split between Russia and NATO.
If there is truce or even an all-sides happy-peace treaty with Ukraine, the situation in the Baltic sea and the Poland-Lithuania-Kaliningrad triangle will be cleared too. In the same go. One would only expect kinetic action around Poland if the war in Ukraine drags on and goes badly for the West.
For example, Col Roderich Kiesewetter, the military affairs person for the opposition German CDU in the Bundestag was suggesting quite recently Lithuania and Poland should close off the Suwalki corridor for Kaliningrad. So far, it looks like CDU will be the most powerful party after the coming German elections, and the pro-war Green party is happy to form a coalition with them. Even then, most of the action will probably be on Lithuanian soil. Germany is moving military there, and they will probably be supported by Swedes and Finns.
I agree in general. But I don't think NATO will allow a long-term peace in Ukraine or Europe. Therefore the war will drag on and propagate. The issue is to keep all the propagated fires under control when the main battlefield quites down. If the Suwalki Corridor is indeed closed, that would be enough justification (to Russia internally) for Russian forces to break open that corridor by force. Still, it would be difficult to maintain as several WW2 examples had shown. Alternatively, Russia can afford to wait and depend on naval transportation. If the seaborne path is also under blockade, then under international laws, Russians have sufficient reasons to declare wars. Yes WW3, but the West is unlikely to win that either. Otherwise, I don't see why Russia/Belarus would want to take land-based offensive into Poland or the Baltics for any reason.
Closure of Suwalki propagated by Col Roderich Kiesewetter was/is an alternative to invasion of the Kursk oblast. However, because the closure would need to be executed by Poles and Lithuanians, it would have meant an open involvement of NATO countries in the conflict - beyond just gun running and supplying mercenaries.
Yes. They would not try to close the Suwalki corridor without thinking about companion tactics.