The whole point, again, is that the people have no voice.
To elaborate: they know they have no voice.
And they've known it for generations.
Each generation, since birth.
So their expectations in this direction are nil. Nil.
There is a corollary:
If you think you'll have no say you take no interest.
There's another factor:
Human laziness. All humans have that.
So when you can do something you often measure whether you'll do it or not according to the effort it'll cost and the possible reward.
So voting/taking an interest and informing yourself is all too hard for too little reward.
Whereas: pulling your smartphone out and pressing a button which says 'vote this prick out' or 'vote against this thing' is no real hardship. Especially if its the fashion of the day and everyone's doing it.
See?
For christ's sake. There's a direction that ought to pay off. Push in that direction if you're real at all and want things to improve...
Why do you think that the SRF & Billionaires would EVER allow such CHANGE to Their well tuned and efficient current sub-system "democracy"?!
Long are the Days when the herds would chop something! But even that ancient practice wouldn't CHANGE anything... soon after it was everything being done as usual!
So what are you trying to say and why don't you just say it instead of inferring? Seems to be: 'Can't be done.'
You seem to be pushing the line: 'All is lost and nothing can be done'.
I do not agree that is the case.
And if you consider this particular proposal you'll see that it requires no approval from anyone, not government, not oligarchs, not anyone.
Open source the code is made by the people which is where the brightest programmers are and it is maintained by them and the security of the whole thing watched over by them.
Well I believe you are completely wrong. I certainly hope you are.
For if the collective voice of all the people cannot effectively steer a country in a good direction what alternative do we have? Nothing but to see people as a bunch of dumb sheep, born slaves needing to be directed all their lives.
I do not agree with that but I recognise it could turn out that way.
It is for sure I do not know the certain answer at this moment and nor does anyone else, including yourself.
The point is it has to be tried to find out.
I do suspect that you'd think yourself capable of steering the country, though, right? It's the others that are dumb, not you?
No. Why do we tell people to slow down? Because they'll get there too soon? A few times. But mainly it's because the way they're going they're not going to get there at all. They're 'doing it' too fast to do it well. So 'going fast' ends up not going at all.
'Going slow' for such folks gets them there quicker.
I didn't say be slow. I suggested maybe you should slow down and think.
Imagine everyone has a phone in their pocket on which at the push of a button they could register their vote. Potentially on any topic at all.
Would they use it? What uses would they like to put it to? How would it work out in practice?
we won't know about the people until we hear from them. that's the point.
The sheeple doesn’t want to be heard… didn’t you already witnessed it during OPERATION COVIDIUS?!
The whole point, again, is that the people have no voice.
To elaborate: they know they have no voice.
And they've known it for generations.
Each generation, since birth.
So their expectations in this direction are nil. Nil.
There is a corollary:
If you think you'll have no say you take no interest.
There's another factor:
Human laziness. All humans have that.
So when you can do something you often measure whether you'll do it or not according to the effort it'll cost and the possible reward.
So voting/taking an interest and informing yourself is all too hard for too little reward.
Whereas: pulling your smartphone out and pressing a button which says 'vote this prick out' or 'vote against this thing' is no real hardship. Especially if its the fashion of the day and everyone's doing it.
See?
For christ's sake. There's a direction that ought to pay off. Push in that direction if you're real at all and want things to improve...
Why do you think that the SRF & Billionaires would EVER allow such CHANGE to Their well tuned and efficient current sub-system "democracy"?!
Long are the Days when the herds would chop something! But even that ancient practice wouldn't CHANGE anything... soon after it was everything being done as usual!
So what are you trying to say and why don't you just say it instead of inferring? Seems to be: 'Can't be done.'
You seem to be pushing the line: 'All is lost and nothing can be done'.
I do not agree that is the case.
And if you consider this particular proposal you'll see that it requires no approval from anyone, not government, not oligarchs, not anyone.
Open source the code is made by the people which is where the brightest programmers are and it is maintained by them and the security of the whole thing watched over by them.
I do not understand your last paragraph.
If one wants to use OSC apps and play "vote" who am I to stop them?!
What matters is that those votes would even count less than the ones that the herds of MMS/3i's do today (from E2E).
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-ebc
It for sure can be done... Just NOT via "voting" no matter the tool (paper or "smart"phone) used to do it!
Well I believe you are completely wrong. I certainly hope you are.
For if the collective voice of all the people cannot effectively steer a country in a good direction what alternative do we have? Nothing but to see people as a bunch of dumb sheep, born slaves needing to be directed all their lives.
I do not agree with that but I recognise it could turn out that way.
It is for sure I do not know the certain answer at this moment and nor does anyone else, including yourself.
The point is it has to be tried to find out.
I do suspect that you'd think yourself capable of steering the country, though, right? It's the others that are dumb, not you?
No matter what my delusions are, and what your thoughts are... This is the Reality we slave on https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-7d4
Sure doesn't look like a "smart"phone and an app for "voting" will CHANGE it.
But one thing needs clarification: Who will implement such voting system and turn it as a "legal" way to approve laws?
You fail to understand, it would seem, entirely. Could I suggest you're perhaps going too fast? Just slow down and think about it all.
Me being slow... "Who will implement such voting system and turn it as a "legal" way to approve laws?"
No. Why do we tell people to slow down? Because they'll get there too soon? A few times. But mainly it's because the way they're going they're not going to get there at all. They're 'doing it' too fast to do it well. So 'going fast' ends up not going at all.
'Going slow' for such folks gets them there quicker.
I didn't say be slow. I suggested maybe you should slow down and think.
Imagine everyone has a phone in their pocket on which at the push of a button they could register their vote. Potentially on any topic at all.
Would they use it? What uses would they like to put it to? How would it work out in practice?
You figure it out.
You do the thinking. You do the imagining.