Germany was waiting this whole time for a major crisis, which ultimately turned out to be the latest phase of the Ukrainian Conflict that US-led NATO is entirely responsible for provoking, in order to make its two interconnected power plays that are now actively unfolding.
As I always saying, EU is German Fourth Reich actually. All the political and ideological goals of the German Reich dreams materialized in the political and economic setup within EU. Now it's about the time for a final touch-up - military domination of the revived German Reich.
How can Germany ever hope to field "the biggest conventional army in Europe"? No inexpensive, reliable energy supplies, no industrial base. No very substantial industrial base, no military power. How could German elites willingly undergo "massive self-inflicted economic damage" and somehow expect to prevail? The thesis sketched above is interesting but not wholly convincing.
Andrew Korybko has been very prescient regarding Russia and Eastern Europe but this piece is a disappointing stretcher, trying to dredge up 20th Century mythology in the absence of Western Realpolitik or Machtpolitik.
As John Kearscheimer opines, Western leaders are just silly people.
I wouldn't take anything they say very seriously, especially some regarding some 4th Reich or European Re-Armament.
In fact, an EU army and ending national votes has been the long time ambition of Brussels, not Berlin.
Scholz's statements could as easily be interpretted as of American insitigation as well, given no German leader would be that forward without U.S. approval at least. It would also concur with frivolous American warmongers who backed Azov Battalion in Ukriane.
Over all, it's still too easy to Nazis around every corner simply because the victors of the last wo world wars simply won't stop fighitng them except when it's inconvenient because in reality, the last of that world order disappeared with the Berlin Wall.
Germany has a pre-eminent place in Europe as a powerful central power since 1870, proven remarkably enough through two major subsequent defeats. But hegemon as a Cold War Superpower was always stretching it as it is now. Germany was and is far more integrated than dominating as Otto von Bismarck understood all too well. Maintaining the peace was perogative of the Imperial Kaisers and even Hitler far more than the former Entente or Allied powers would like to admit although it's easy enough to see as Russia is in a similar predicament now.
Poland is playing the same stupid game that got it partitioned four times, including 1939 and fell behind the Iron Curtain.
The Polish gov't has never reconciled with its position as a weak central power that would be landlocked had it not for German territory occupied on the Blatic, exacerbaed by Poles in Silesia who have actually chosen German rule over Polish mostly to avoid the turmoil.
Poland also hopes to acquire Ukrainian territory hence cooperating with the U.S. as foolishly as Skladkowski and Beck did with Stalin and Chamberlain.
Yes, actually I agree, yet I posted a link above just as an example that I am not the only one who claims that EU is actually turning into the Fourth Reich, others also notice that and dare to speak openly.
Ok, do not put your words in my mouth: I didn't write anywhere that Germans are Nazis. I was talking about old dream of German Reich which is reviving and to great measure appearing in German-dominated EU policies.
And that I know what I am talking about here is the quote about the rule of the German Federal Constitution court in 1973:
"In 1973, in a review of the previous year's Basic Treaty between East and West Germany, the German Federal Constitutional Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) ruled that according to the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany the German Reich had outlasted the collapse in 1945, and hence had continued to exist as an “overall state”, albeit one not itself capable of action. The court ruled that since 1949 the Federal Republic (FRG) had been partially identical with the German Reich and not merely its successor."
So, although the 4 powers occupying Germany after WWII and the most of the countries worldwide didn't recognize this Constitutional court decision looking at FRG as German Reich continuation , not simply successor, this Court rule is still in power and was later modified after uniting with DDR into the Unified Germany. From the German Federal Constitutional court, today Germany is not a successor but continuation of the German Reich.
Times changed from the WWI and WWII , today, money rules, and Germany with it's 80+ million people and one of the strongest world economies is pushing through EU some of their own agendas (including the latest Shultz's idea of abandoning veto in EU of particular countries on political decisions - so the powerful "majority" could simply swallow state sovereignty and over vote against the interests of member states)
There are dozens and dozens indicators about the course where the political establishment of EU is driving Europe and, at least in my view it is all rushing towards the Fourth Reich, or - pan European state which will simply eradicate member state sovereignties for the interests of the dominating powers within it: I could write here pages and pages of evidences, yet time and space here isn't sufficient for the argument. So let's just agree that we disagree in this matter.
"In The Fourth Reich? The EU – An Emerging German Empire, to be published in July Moore argues that German has not abandoned the Bismarckian dream of a 'pan European Empire stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals and beyond'. Drawing upon new research including diplomatic papers from Germany, the UK, Russia and America, she argues that Germany has continued to build a dominant position in Europe, using military force, aggressive diplomacy and now economic strength. This has continued even during periods that our ordinary history books describe as 'defeats'."
If you try to dig deeper and check ideas of ideologists of the German Reich (Hitler was just an executive of this ideology), you would find astonishing similarities in dozens of ideas and goals of the German Reich ideology with contemporary EU politics and goals. What you call 20th century mythology is actually a cruel reality, which you are trying to whitewash here to the extents that it looks silly. You are either not familiar and fully aware of the European situation in the last few decades, or you intentionally whitewashing German role in this unnatural and sick creation called EU.
Have you ever asked yourself how many Nazi high officers were abolished and got significant role in post war German Bundeswehr and of course in NATO?I could send you a long list.
Nothing changed, and once masks started falling down it becomes more and more obvious.
New appraisal of history demonstrates 150 years of Germany’s imperial ambitions!
"This is my map of Africa!" i,e. Europe! Remember that?
Quite the anit-imperialist during the Scramble for Africa.
The few German acqisitions were perffunctory and hardly a challenge to the Birtish Empire which did have stretch the globe, along with the French, Spanish and Portugese which were all much larger.
This is just rehashed Britsh WW1 propagnda rehashed in WW2 and peddled today by EU Gloablists. What's next? "Elsa, She Wolf of the SS"?
In fact, "if you dig deeper", you'll discover that German Imperialists imperialists were always a minorty. The Pan Germans were the driving ideology since Napoleon. The German Grossraum wirtschaft or Mittel Europa was Lebansraum, a perifery of what became the Verailles concession staes that had always supplied Germany's plant with raw materials and markets since the mid 19th Century.
It's flabergasting how you can call the EU a German creation when Germany lost the war!
In fact, it's astounding how "indpendant scholars" can sell books on the subject and peoole believe any of it when reputable scholars are successfully challenged the entire Fascist-Blitzkrieg Myth.
Ask yourself, how Hitler could have intended to conquor the world with an army set up for limtied wars and no heavy bombers or a significant navy?
How on Earth could Germany intend that again with the Bundeswehr which really an army.
Sara Moore is just blaming Germany for all the Allied and Entente mistakes.
And please, refrain from telling me my motives. That's rude and very Liberal.
We might have different opinions on this matter, yet your reply simply confirms me what I thought and wrote about your motives, - that is my opinion and I am free to say it. being rude or not. You intentionally minimize and whitewash German role in two word wars, you intentionally avoid to admit that mass of High ranked officers and Nazis in the operation Paperclip were extracted and moved to the West, particularly US and that they got significant roles in post war times , from NASA to NATO. Germany was defeated military in two wars, But the idea of Nazism and German Reich was not defeated and never died.
For your information, not Americans, or eve UK had the key role in the breakup of the former Yugoslavia: It was German BND secret service which secretly trained armed and infiltrated int Former Yugoslavia all those Ustasha fascist which managed to avoid execution or trials after WWII and got Carte Blanche in Germany, Australia, and several South American countries. BND systematically and periodically sent secretly these emigrants and their successors, into the Former Yugoslavia. One of the most known such groups was Ustasha terrorist group inserted near Bugojno, Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1972, after 1971 "Croatian Spring" attempt to restore independency based on NDH - WWII Fascist German satellite state. That terrorist group was completely destroyed and eliminated with just few survivors who were trialed and locked down. All these secret war operations from WWII till 1991 and breakup of Yugoslavia were performed by the German BND secret service (of course with UK secret services as well) Surprisingly, Americans came into the scene here as the Big Boss, only after successful breakup of Yugoslavia which was conducted and performed with the great assistance of Germany and UK.
So German dreams about their influence and domination in Europe never actually died.
What I was writing above are historical facts, there are documents to confirm all about it. and I was a kid when I saw personally some of these 1972 terrorists killed in successful operation of Yugoslav secret service and special forces. So all you have wrote above simply does not hold ground. Some of us are old enough to remember well everything in the last 4-5 decades and from the historical distance to make conclusions and statements.
A 4th Reich would mean that there is quite a bit of difference between Berlin and Brussels and that there would be even more.
I'd be more inclined to see this as a Brexit thing: more evidence that the EU is falling apart.
Afterf all, Germany is taking the major hit on Russian sanctions and has been paying EU bills and Isreali-jew reparations for years while squirming under U.S. thumbscrews.
The USSR was the only reason to put up with it but, now that's gone.
Schloz's statement wasn't the clearest thing and could be as easily interpretted as secession as hegemony. "If we can't have it our way, then we go it alone."
It wouldn't be the first time Germany and Russia colluded as the European pariah states.
Excellent analysis.
As I always saying, EU is German Fourth Reich actually. All the political and ideological goals of the German Reich dreams materialized in the political and economic setup within EU. Now it's about the time for a final touch-up - military domination of the revived German Reich.
How can Germany ever hope to field "the biggest conventional army in Europe"? No inexpensive, reliable energy supplies, no industrial base. No very substantial industrial base, no military power. How could German elites willingly undergo "massive self-inflicted economic damage" and somehow expect to prevail? The thesis sketched above is interesting but not wholly convincing.
Andrew Korybko has been very prescient regarding Russia and Eastern Europe but this piece is a disappointing stretcher, trying to dredge up 20th Century mythology in the absence of Western Realpolitik or Machtpolitik.
As John Kearscheimer opines, Western leaders are just silly people.
I wouldn't take anything they say very seriously, especially some regarding some 4th Reich or European Re-Armament.
In fact, an EU army and ending national votes has been the long time ambition of Brussels, not Berlin.
Scholz's statements could as easily be interpretted as of American insitigation as well, given no German leader would be that forward without U.S. approval at least. It would also concur with frivolous American warmongers who backed Azov Battalion in Ukriane.
Over all, it's still too easy to Nazis around every corner simply because the victors of the last wo world wars simply won't stop fighitng them except when it's inconvenient because in reality, the last of that world order disappeared with the Berlin Wall.
Germany has a pre-eminent place in Europe as a powerful central power since 1870, proven remarkably enough through two major subsequent defeats. But hegemon as a Cold War Superpower was always stretching it as it is now. Germany was and is far more integrated than dominating as Otto von Bismarck understood all too well. Maintaining the peace was perogative of the Imperial Kaisers and even Hitler far more than the former Entente or Allied powers would like to admit although it's easy enough to see as Russia is in a similar predicament now.
https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/12/05/germany-turning-eu-into-fourth-reich-says-polish-deputy-minister/
and? Joe Biden said Putin has no soul, too.
Poland is playing the same stupid game that got it partitioned four times, including 1939 and fell behind the Iron Curtain.
The Polish gov't has never reconciled with its position as a weak central power that would be landlocked had it not for German territory occupied on the Blatic, exacerbaed by Poles in Silesia who have actually chosen German rule over Polish mostly to avoid the turmoil.
Poland also hopes to acquire Ukrainian territory hence cooperating with the U.S. as foolishly as Skladkowski and Beck did with Stalin and Chamberlain.
Yes, actually I agree, yet I posted a link above just as an example that I am not the only one who claims that EU is actually turning into the Fourth Reich, others also notice that and dare to speak openly.
Understood, but I don't think it takes much courage to call Germans "nazis".
Even Putin is doing it, which is really beneath him IMO, although effetive enough given the "Great Patriotic War" and all.
I get it.
But it's still a cheap shot.
After all, Azov fighting for a Homosexual jewish president?
It'd make Mel Brooks look serious.
Ok, do not put your words in my mouth: I didn't write anywhere that Germans are Nazis. I was talking about old dream of German Reich which is reviving and to great measure appearing in German-dominated EU policies.
And that I know what I am talking about here is the quote about the rule of the German Federal Constitution court in 1973:
"In 1973, in a review of the previous year's Basic Treaty between East and West Germany, the German Federal Constitutional Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) ruled that according to the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany the German Reich had outlasted the collapse in 1945, and hence had continued to exist as an “overall state”, albeit one not itself capable of action. The court ruled that since 1949 the Federal Republic (FRG) had been partially identical with the German Reich and not merely its successor."
So, although the 4 powers occupying Germany after WWII and the most of the countries worldwide didn't recognize this Constitutional court decision looking at FRG as German Reich continuation , not simply successor, this Court rule is still in power and was later modified after uniting with DDR into the Unified Germany. From the German Federal Constitutional court, today Germany is not a successor but continuation of the German Reich.
Times changed from the WWI and WWII , today, money rules, and Germany with it's 80+ million people and one of the strongest world economies is pushing through EU some of their own agendas (including the latest Shultz's idea of abandoning veto in EU of particular countries on political decisions - so the powerful "majority" could simply swallow state sovereignty and over vote against the interests of member states)
There are dozens and dozens indicators about the course where the political establishment of EU is driving Europe and, at least in my view it is all rushing towards the Fourth Reich, or - pan European state which will simply eradicate member state sovereignties for the interests of the dominating powers within it: I could write here pages and pages of evidences, yet time and space here isn't sufficient for the argument. So let's just agree that we disagree in this matter.
Who will avenge nurse Cavell,,,
"In The Fourth Reich? The EU – An Emerging German Empire, to be published in July Moore argues that German has not abandoned the Bismarckian dream of a 'pan European Empire stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals and beyond'. Drawing upon new research including diplomatic papers from Germany, the UK, Russia and America, she argues that Germany has continued to build a dominant position in Europe, using military force, aggressive diplomacy and now economic strength. This has continued even during periods that our ordinary history books describe as 'defeats'."
If you try to dig deeper and check ideas of ideologists of the German Reich (Hitler was just an executive of this ideology), you would find astonishing similarities in dozens of ideas and goals of the German Reich ideology with contemporary EU politics and goals. What you call 20th century mythology is actually a cruel reality, which you are trying to whitewash here to the extents that it looks silly. You are either not familiar and fully aware of the European situation in the last few decades, or you intentionally whitewashing German role in this unnatural and sick creation called EU.
Have you ever asked yourself how many Nazi high officers were abolished and got significant role in post war German Bundeswehr and of course in NATO?I could send you a long list.
Nothing changed, and once masks started falling down it becomes more and more obvious.
New appraisal of history demonstrates 150 years of Germany’s imperial ambitions!
https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Reich-Emerging-German-Empire-ebook/dp/B01INEX04W
Bismarck never had imperial "dreams'!
"This is my map of Africa!" i,e. Europe! Remember that?
Quite the anit-imperialist during the Scramble for Africa.
The few German acqisitions were perffunctory and hardly a challenge to the Birtish Empire which did have stretch the globe, along with the French, Spanish and Portugese which were all much larger.
This is just rehashed Britsh WW1 propagnda rehashed in WW2 and peddled today by EU Gloablists. What's next? "Elsa, She Wolf of the SS"?
In fact, "if you dig deeper", you'll discover that German Imperialists imperialists were always a minorty. The Pan Germans were the driving ideology since Napoleon. The German Grossraum wirtschaft or Mittel Europa was Lebansraum, a perifery of what became the Verailles concession staes that had always supplied Germany's plant with raw materials and markets since the mid 19th Century.
It's flabergasting how you can call the EU a German creation when Germany lost the war!
In fact, it's astounding how "indpendant scholars" can sell books on the subject and peoole believe any of it when reputable scholars are successfully challenged the entire Fascist-Blitzkrieg Myth.
Ask yourself, how Hitler could have intended to conquor the world with an army set up for limtied wars and no heavy bombers or a significant navy?
How on Earth could Germany intend that again with the Bundeswehr which really an army.
Sara Moore is just blaming Germany for all the Allied and Entente mistakes.
And please, refrain from telling me my motives. That's rude and very Liberal.
We might have different opinions on this matter, yet your reply simply confirms me what I thought and wrote about your motives, - that is my opinion and I am free to say it. being rude or not. You intentionally minimize and whitewash German role in two word wars, you intentionally avoid to admit that mass of High ranked officers and Nazis in the operation Paperclip were extracted and moved to the West, particularly US and that they got significant roles in post war times , from NASA to NATO. Germany was defeated military in two wars, But the idea of Nazism and German Reich was not defeated and never died.
For your information, not Americans, or eve UK had the key role in the breakup of the former Yugoslavia: It was German BND secret service which secretly trained armed and infiltrated int Former Yugoslavia all those Ustasha fascist which managed to avoid execution or trials after WWII and got Carte Blanche in Germany, Australia, and several South American countries. BND systematically and periodically sent secretly these emigrants and their successors, into the Former Yugoslavia. One of the most known such groups was Ustasha terrorist group inserted near Bugojno, Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1972, after 1971 "Croatian Spring" attempt to restore independency based on NDH - WWII Fascist German satellite state. That terrorist group was completely destroyed and eliminated with just few survivors who were trialed and locked down. All these secret war operations from WWII till 1991 and breakup of Yugoslavia were performed by the German BND secret service (of course with UK secret services as well) Surprisingly, Americans came into the scene here as the Big Boss, only after successful breakup of Yugoslavia which was conducted and performed with the great assistance of Germany and UK.
So German dreams about their influence and domination in Europe never actually died.
What I was writing above are historical facts, there are documents to confirm all about it. and I was a kid when I saw personally some of these 1972 terrorists killed in successful operation of Yugoslav secret service and special forces. So all you have wrote above simply does not hold ground. Some of us are old enough to remember well everything in the last 4-5 decades and from the historical distance to make conclusions and statements.
https://newsbeezer.com/serbiaeng/50-years-since-operation-phoenix-how-the-ustashas-tried-to-start-a-riot-near-bugojno/
Yeah, well, screw off. This "nazi" crap is 77 years old, like nothing has happened since.
And, in fact, a lot of the old news headlines have been proven to be not all that accurate, typical for first run "history".
The current revision is long over due, so let's not be a fool, rude as that may be.
Brussels is the home for those nutzees. What is the difference?? none
A 4th Reich would mean that there is quite a bit of difference between Berlin and Brussels and that there would be even more.
I'd be more inclined to see this as a Brexit thing: more evidence that the EU is falling apart.
Afterf all, Germany is taking the major hit on Russian sanctions and has been paying EU bills and Isreali-jew reparations for years while squirming under U.S. thumbscrews.
The USSR was the only reason to put up with it but, now that's gone.
Schloz's statement wasn't the clearest thing and could be as easily interpretted as secession as hegemony. "If we can't have it our way, then we go it alone."
It wouldn't be the first time Germany and Russia colluded as the European pariah states.