Russia is worried that the influence of hawkish forces inside the US’ “deep state” might be growing and could ultimately lead to a large-scale conventional strike against it, including by proxy through Ukraine, which Russia hopes to deter by reminding them that this would result in World War III.
If we define "stupid" as lacking critical thinking skills, then yes, they're stupid. Psychopaths always self destruct because they can't think critically. Take the "escalate to de-escalate" stance it's literally insane 🥴
I suspect that the people in charge think just fine. It's simply that our lives are a sacrifice that they are happy to make.
The problem with psychopaths and sociopaths is that they are no good at building lasting alliances, only temporary coalitions aimed at a given goal that fall apart once the goal is reached.
The ruling class has been doing that successfully for thousands of years. It's why they keep winning. And, honestly those people don't think just fine. They value power and money more than life. That's regressive and anti survival.
So I learned a new word today: kakistrocratic. When my wife was studying the "minimal competency test" in education, she said the critiques and her own opinion were that sooner or later, these minimal competency tests would become the maximal competency limit. Science is based on metrics. When we do not evaluate the government officials or students properly, we get mediocre civil servants and mediocre students. Eventually, we get incompetent national leaders.
Based on your earlier comment that a collapse in the front line would likely result in a freeze at the Dneiper, and the need for face-saving by the neocons, it seems possible that NATO may precede an entry into Ukraine by bringing in missiles capable of deep strikes. This might allow Russia to stop its advance and allow NATO to claim they "saved Ukraine." Hopefully, President Austin would then restrain any further action.
The alternate ending here would be rapid shock and awe before those missiles are brought in and before the neocons unify themselves on a path forward.
There may be other more crative steps not obvious to me.
There are pros and cons to any approach, but the psychos in America who seem to be getting urged on by the British (who also appear to be stirring the pot in the ME) are obviously forcing Russia's security concerns to the fore.
This would seem to be a decisive moment upon which the future hangs and there are no good options.
Whatever happens, I am praying for all of us. I honestly cannot comprehend what my country thinks it is doing.
Any attempt to bring missiles in would trigger destruction of the remaining power grid and rain havoc on any logistics still operating thereafter.
“Shock and Awe” requires months of preparation and staging that has yet to even start. If they got anywhere close to a launch there would be Kinzhal’s raining down before they were wheels up.
Yes, order of operations would matter a lot, but you're probably right that bringing in missiles would be escalatory and inflammatory. Just trying to imagine a way to end this tragic situation.
Or human trafficking, which may be even more lucrative now...
Yes, the money flows do seem to be keeping this going... I think the deep state and all its associated grifters would love a reprise of the Cold War as the outcome, at least until the US bond market blows up.
One would think the neocons would have by now perceived their dreams of world domination shattered. So far, only Austin seems to have realized it. Which is very bizarre...
For what it's worth to you guys, those of us grieving the loss of our country are not in the minority and we do clearly see the grave injustice being done to Russia. We should have seen it happening far earlier but we wrongly ignored the death these idiots were inflicting across the ME.
The New American Century has now morphed into the New American Nightmare.
When I was trained on ISO-9000 for software quality assurance, the instructor said the most important spirit of ISO-9000 is to do what you say/document, and say/document what you do. Compared to most of the western country leaders who say one thing and do another, Russia seems to be quite the opposite.
Andrey, us, uk and israhell are banditic, colonial and terrorist entities. Furthermore, us and israhell are illegal entities because by International Law standards, those 2 entities are occupying the land on which local indigenous people are living. Therefore those illegals can be defeated by military means. Pls note that zionist israhellites are not Semites. Those zionists are a mixture of Canaanites, Hittites, Mitanni, Ozgud Turks, Volga Bulgars, Huns, Magyars, Avars, Pechangs, Varangians, Eastern Slavs, Western Slavs, Mongols, Chazars, Kipchacks, Germanic swedens, Germanic germans. Therefore they are not Semites. However, they were specializing in slave trade supplied to the us, that entity is currently run by them.
The Putin has to resprt to this simply underscores the simple fact that the West has lost its fear of Russia.
This is entirely the result of Russian dithering and indecision. Sociopaths see nice guy posturing as contemptible weakness, not as an application to join their Exclusive Club.
A lead pipe to the face, over and over again, a Colt Python held to the head and the sure knowledge that you will without hesitation pull that trigger, that is the language that the West understands.
I agree with you up to the point of you saying that Russia had been dithering. They've been hoping sanity would prevail in the West.
That's not possible, and he didn't understand that, when the power is in the hands of complete idiots that fancy themselves as being smarter than everyone else. People that are the remnants of what might be called smarter elders. I don't think they were particularly smarter since they put us in this position, but did they do what supervisors do in some companies? Did they promote those that wouldn't outshine them? EGO promotions that I've seen over and over again in big and small companies. I know most of us have seen this and scratched our heads thinking "why would they promote that dummy?"
Lots of heads of organizations don't prepare to be replaced. It's stupid. After they leave or die the organization's leaders that didn't pass on knowledge and experience ends up failing. They don't want others to know at much as them? EGO.
Russia clearly was hoping that sanity would prevail int he West. This was foolish beyond measure.
But I am going to say some very hard words. Russia does not seek to destroy the West. They want to join it. Russian leaders tell themselves that the brutal treatment of Iraq and Libya surely wouldn't be used on them, Russians have written symphonies and created renowned works of culture.
Nobody cares. "We're Europeans, too!" Nobody in Europe thinks so. They hate Russians and (used to) fear them.
The Russian leadership would love to be allowed to join The Club, but refuse to admit to themselves that they never will be admitted, much less treated as equals, only as house slaves offered a bit nicer clothes and better food than the field slaves.
Think of a glorified Poland. Poles love being America's buttboi, it actually gets them upset that I can speak Polish, since why would an American lower himself so? It would like if Taylor Swift were to ask some teenybopper fans if she could, like, totqally hang out with them for a while, if they don't mind, of course.
Yes. Putin just making explicit what was already clearly stated. Now you are doing the same. This necessary due to the over-blown, twisted, hysterical breathless misinterpretations of MSM.
Rumor had it some days ago that there was an "event" near the large naval base in Bellingham, Washington State. Something like a large, fast projectile flying in the air overhead resulting later in shocks registering on Richter Scale, possibly from hitting mountains. All very vague, but seemingly resultant in less warlike rhetoric from the pols. Who knows.
Oh I agree. Recently a Russian diplomat said it's good for us you wouldn't let us join your club. If you had you would had all our resources and us being lapdogs like the all members of your club are.
I read too often these fools who yammer about Russia's lack of response to the crossing of its red lines. In response to the crossing of red lines, Russia invaded Georgia, annexed the Crimea, and is using military means to enforce its objectives in the Ukraine. Doesn't look weak to me.
If you knew more about why those things appear that way you, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense. Do some unbiased research. I was able to you should be able to.
Everyone should view this. It's the West's, mostly the US's thinking and the dire results of their Kakistrocractic low IQ thinking.
The rulers of the West are not stupid. They are sociopaths.
They’re both.
If they were stupid, they would not be where they are.
LMAO… the latter has nothing to do with the former, and the current US administration is the most obvious case in point. Kamala is an absolute idiot.
It should be obvious that neither Kamala nor Biden are really running anything.
Of course but they’re still “there”. The government is full of them.
If we define "stupid" as lacking critical thinking skills, then yes, they're stupid. Psychopaths always self destruct because they can't think critically. Take the "escalate to de-escalate" stance it's literally insane 🥴
I suspect that the people in charge think just fine. It's simply that our lives are a sacrifice that they are happy to make.
The problem with psychopaths and sociopaths is that they are no good at building lasting alliances, only temporary coalitions aimed at a given goal that fall apart once the goal is reached.
The ruling class has been doing that successfully for thousands of years. It's why they keep winning. And, honestly those people don't think just fine. They value power and money more than life. That's regressive and anti survival.
So I learned a new word today: kakistrocratic. When my wife was studying the "minimal competency test" in education, she said the critiques and her own opinion were that sooner or later, these minimal competency tests would become the maximal competency limit. Science is based on metrics. When we do not evaluate the government officials or students properly, we get mediocre civil servants and mediocre students. Eventually, we get incompetent national leaders.
I forgot the very important attachment: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fsRmxK_LDxo&feature=shared
Based on your earlier comment that a collapse in the front line would likely result in a freeze at the Dneiper, and the need for face-saving by the neocons, it seems possible that NATO may precede an entry into Ukraine by bringing in missiles capable of deep strikes. This might allow Russia to stop its advance and allow NATO to claim they "saved Ukraine." Hopefully, President Austin would then restrain any further action.
The alternate ending here would be rapid shock and awe before those missiles are brought in and before the neocons unify themselves on a path forward.
There may be other more crative steps not obvious to me.
There are pros and cons to any approach, but the psychos in America who seem to be getting urged on by the British (who also appear to be stirring the pot in the ME) are obviously forcing Russia's security concerns to the fore.
This would seem to be a decisive moment upon which the future hangs and there are no good options.
Whatever happens, I am praying for all of us. I honestly cannot comprehend what my country thinks it is doing.
Any attempt to bring missiles in would trigger destruction of the remaining power grid and rain havoc on any logistics still operating thereafter.
“Shock and Awe” requires months of preparation and staging that has yet to even start. If they got anywhere close to a launch there would be Kinzhal’s raining down before they were wheels up.
There’s no capacity for surprise in the West.
Yes, order of operations would matter a lot, but you're probably right that bringing in missiles would be escalatory and inflammatory. Just trying to imagine a way to end this tragic situation.
We’re all looking for that, but the people making the decisions have their own motivations.
IMHO Ukraine isn’t just a lever against Russia, it’s the world’s biggest grift and almost everyone in power is in on it.
It’s like trying to get a Mexican cartel to give up the drug trade.
Or human trafficking, which may be even more lucrative now...
Yes, the money flows do seem to be keeping this going... I think the deep state and all its associated grifters would love a reprise of the Cold War as the outcome, at least until the US bond market blows up.
One would think the neocons would have by now perceived their dreams of world domination shattered. So far, only Austin seems to have realized it. Which is very bizarre...
For what it's worth to you guys, those of us grieving the loss of our country are not in the minority and we do clearly see the grave injustice being done to Russia. We should have seen it happening far earlier but we wrongly ignored the death these idiots were inflicting across the ME.
The New American Century has now morphed into the New American Nightmare.
I know right?!
When I was trained on ISO-9000 for software quality assurance, the instructor said the most important spirit of ISO-9000 is to do what you say/document, and say/document what you do. Compared to most of the western country leaders who say one thing and do another, Russia seems to be quite the opposite.
Same for nuclear QA in the power industry!
Andrey, us, uk and israhell are banditic, colonial and terrorist entities. Furthermore, us and israhell are illegal entities because by International Law standards, those 2 entities are occupying the land on which local indigenous people are living. Therefore those illegals can be defeated by military means. Pls note that zionist israhellites are not Semites. Those zionists are a mixture of Canaanites, Hittites, Mitanni, Ozgud Turks, Volga Bulgars, Huns, Magyars, Avars, Pechangs, Varangians, Eastern Slavs, Western Slavs, Mongols, Chazars, Kipchacks, Germanic swedens, Germanic germans. Therefore they are not Semites. However, they were specializing in slave trade supplied to the us, that entity is currently run by them.
The Putin has to resprt to this simply underscores the simple fact that the West has lost its fear of Russia.
This is entirely the result of Russian dithering and indecision. Sociopaths see nice guy posturing as contemptible weakness, not as an application to join their Exclusive Club.
A lead pipe to the face, over and over again, a Colt Python held to the head and the sure knowledge that you will without hesitation pull that trigger, that is the language that the West understands.
I agree with you up to the point of you saying that Russia had been dithering. They've been hoping sanity would prevail in the West.
That's not possible, and he didn't understand that, when the power is in the hands of complete idiots that fancy themselves as being smarter than everyone else. People that are the remnants of what might be called smarter elders. I don't think they were particularly smarter since they put us in this position, but did they do what supervisors do in some companies? Did they promote those that wouldn't outshine them? EGO promotions that I've seen over and over again in big and small companies. I know most of us have seen this and scratched our heads thinking "why would they promote that dummy?"
Lots of heads of organizations don't prepare to be replaced. It's stupid. After they leave or die the organization's leaders that didn't pass on knowledge and experience ends up failing. They don't want others to know at much as them? EGO.
Russia clearly was hoping that sanity would prevail int he West. This was foolish beyond measure.
But I am going to say some very hard words. Russia does not seek to destroy the West. They want to join it. Russian leaders tell themselves that the brutal treatment of Iraq and Libya surely wouldn't be used on them, Russians have written symphonies and created renowned works of culture.
Nobody cares. "We're Europeans, too!" Nobody in Europe thinks so. They hate Russians and (used to) fear them.
The Russian leadership would love to be allowed to join The Club, but refuse to admit to themselves that they never will be admitted, much less treated as equals, only as house slaves offered a bit nicer clothes and better food than the field slaves.
Think of a glorified Poland. Poles love being America's buttboi, it actually gets them upset that I can speak Polish, since why would an American lower himself so? It would like if Taylor Swift were to ask some teenybopper fans if she could, like, totqally hang out with them for a while, if they don't mind, of course.
Yes. Putin just making explicit what was already clearly stated. Now you are doing the same. This necessary due to the over-blown, twisted, hysterical breathless misinterpretations of MSM.
Rumor had it some days ago that there was an "event" near the large naval base in Bellingham, Washington State. Something like a large, fast projectile flying in the air overhead resulting later in shocks registering on Richter Scale, possibly from hitting mountains. All very vague, but seemingly resultant in less warlike rhetoric from the pols. Who knows.
Oh I agree. Recently a Russian diplomat said it's good for us you wouldn't let us join your club. If you had you would had all our resources and us being lapdogs like the all members of your club are.
I read too often these fools who yammer about Russia's lack of response to the crossing of its red lines. In response to the crossing of red lines, Russia invaded Georgia, annexed the Crimea, and is using military means to enforce its objectives in the Ukraine. Doesn't look weak to me.
If you knew more about why those things appear that way you, you wouldn't be spouting nonsense. Do some unbiased research. I was able to you should be able to.
Reading comments first will lend cogency to your replies
A society that systematically refuses to recognize that its physical survival is
physical survival is immediately in question and which does not take any steps
to save itself cannot be described as mentally healthy.