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The Russia-China discord is much deeper than disagreement on gas pricing. The short term factors includes China's exhaustion of foreign reserve (to pay for the gas pipe line) and dwindling domestic needs for Russian Gas. In the very short term, col, hydraulic power, and nuclear power are better choices. it is a cash management problem. But there are larger and deeper problems: rumors about Xi losing power or at least losing domination in economic policies have not stopped after Xi's meeting with Vietnam's General Secretariat (and Chairperson ?). If anything, the rumors get worse.

Then you have to consider the very recent announcement of virtually all China's bank stopped financial transactions with Russia. I am sure some other paths have been worked out, but the "taste" is simply not good for a strategic alliance "without upper limit". Also note the last term has disappeared from the last major Russia-China joint communique on strategic matters. Without Russian technology and experience, and perhaps Russian-made weapon systems as well, China would have a really hard time to attack Taiwan, and the soft-attack approach does require a credible military threat to work. Sabre-rattling by sending airplanes and ships to circle Taiwan can get people in Taiwan bored, if not yet so already.

As Ukraine War goes into the final stage, Russian leaders should have clearly perceived that China is a weak partner. At the time of strengthening relationship with India and Iran, Russia needs to help North Korea to improve its domestic economy, not just military, and to strengthen the military in Far East as PLA is simply not that dependable. Sending two Frigates to the British Channel, yeah, sure. But Russia does not need China to perform that trick to make Russia's case for a pan-European security arrangement.

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"...If it musters the political will..." "...in spite of the US’ sanctions..." "...it’s worth risking more of the US’ wrath by ignoring its sanctions for the sake of receiving more discounted energy via a Russian-Iranian swap..." "...potentially leading to PoS-2 beginning construction..."

Yeah, I get all that — makes (just) good (natural) sense.

The question which keeps popping up from the back of my mind is, 'Just how much damage have the Americans done to their water table by fracking, and when will the gas they've got as a result run out?'.

I can't help remembering the debate of all those years ago, e.g. the Hollywood film, 'Promised Land'. I understand it is, as IT has always been in America — all about big business and money, and it all got forgotten when Trump came to power, BUT "The portrayal was first reported in April 2012 by filmmakers raising funds for the pro-fracking documentary FrackNation. They said, "Promised Land will increase unfounded concerns about fracking." (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2091473/)" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_Land_(2012_film)) I can't believe all that fracking didn't cause SOME irrevocable damage, nor all that glorious gas is going to last forever.

Seems to me, once it's run out and they can't squeeze any more blood out of their stones, the stuff that just seems to spurt out of the ground all by its own natural self from that vast, vast land that is Siberia and the North of Russia is going to give the Chinese good reason to have a little re-think about compromising.

Any idea when that might be?

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