Beyond it are just a few lightly defended towns and then vast expanses of grassland that could become the scene of maneuver warfare until Russia reaches the next heavily defended localities further afield.
Predictable article in The Guardian on how this “decisive” move by Ukraine guarantees the fall of Putin. The propaganda value of this maneuver is not being underutilized.
The closer we are toward the end, the more crazy ideas from the Ukraine side would come. Mr. Putin cannot hope to really keep the nation in peace while soldiers fight and die like the Americans did for Vietnam. To prepare for the ultimate NATO attacks, it is time for another wave of mobilization, say, in late September. Not all the mobilization should go to the front. Instead, strategic positions, key factories, bases, R&D centers, even universities, all need to beef up security, and in certain cases, air defense, in hedge hog fashion. Otherwise, each new crazy act by Ukraine would challenge the peace time mindset and creating the impression that the government is not doing its jobs.
Something like (Google says), "Top 11 phrases to express surprise
Oh my God!
Explanation: “Oh my God!” is a widely used phrase to express surprise, shock, or disbelief. ...
No way! Explanation: “No way!” is an informal phrase used to express disbelief or astonishment. ...
Are you serious? ...
Holy cow! ...
What a surprise! ...
That's incredible! ...
Wow! ...
You're kidding!"
Sarcasm aside, you get the point.
"Ukraine’s successes in Kharkov, Kherson," 'Comparing & Contrasting Russia’s Pullbacks From Kharkov & Kherson Regions', ANDREW KORYBKO, NOV 10, 2022"
Yeah, no offence intended, Andrew, but you know what they say about politics — 'A week is a long time (in politics).'. That's what Harold Wilson said some time, when he was managing to stay OUT of Vietnam (late 60's). Just imagine how that works out when you HAVEN'T been able to resist your masters' call to administer a proxy war (with God-only-knows how many kept secret on the ground)! A week may be a long time, even when you don't have a war to worry about, but a year... When there's a(n undeclared) war on... [choose from 'Google' expressions above]
It might even be a little easier if someone HAD had the balls to declare it (but no-one has). Just look how it's consolidated the will of the Russians in Russia! Obviously, no-one could expect that here (because we (they) are on the wrong side and doing someone else's bidding) but IF we (they) WEREN'T... Just imagine!
But, hey, when you're losing, you're losing: all time seems to drag out forever and a day and SUCK!
10/11/22... OK, so it's not 9/11 (the numbers are the right way around) but you get the point.
Hey, no offence intended!
"None of these three precedents suggests that Ukraine is capable of beating Russia head-to-head at maneuver warfare."
Yeah, but it's not the Ukrainians, is it?
Not to worry: the Russians have been whooping all three shades of shit out of the Americans and their NATO for more than two years now (and a good year, however you might like to count) despite the difficulties, setbacks, teething troubles you so accurately point out here. Without going nuclear, and this has always been the Americans' problem, there's pretty much Jack Poo-poo, as they say, or sweet FA, they can do to change the ultimate outcome. I reckon, if they hadn't pulled it on the Japs in '45, they might have a bit more Karma to pull out of their hat (or arse) now.
"...speculate which vector(s) Russia would move into..."
OK: 1) Odessa (for Transnistria), 2) Lvov. Piss on Kiev (Who wants it?)! Make a rump state to send all the wannabe Banderite-L+G+B+T+etc.-Hitlers to then seal if off, like North Korea. If they turn out to be as clever and resourceful as the (North) Koreans, they may also enjoy similar status in half a century or so; could give Lvov back to the Poles, just to shut everyone else up.
"...swap whatever Kiev controls in Kursk for whatever Moscow controls in Kharkov..."
Yeah, right... С'час!
"...it might try to cut the Gordian knot through a series of swaps or escalations instead."
Yeah, probably more sensible to try that BEFORE Odessa or Lvov need to be bargained for (and the Poles won't give up Lvov).
"...try crossing Russia’s non-negotiable red lines as part of a dangerous gamble to “escalate to de-escalate”..."
Ho-hum: been there, done that, got the T-shirt... Didn't do much good, did it? What evidence is there to demonstrate it might work better yet another time?
"...everyone will eventually see what Kiev ultimately does."
You say that as if 'Kiev' or 'the Ukrainians' were't surrounded by inverted commas, as if they had something to do with it?!
Predictable article in The Guardian on how this “decisive” move by Ukraine guarantees the fall of Putin. The propaganda value of this maneuver is not being underutilized.
The closer we are toward the end, the more crazy ideas from the Ukraine side would come. Mr. Putin cannot hope to really keep the nation in peace while soldiers fight and die like the Americans did for Vietnam. To prepare for the ultimate NATO attacks, it is time for another wave of mobilization, say, in late September. Not all the mobilization should go to the front. Instead, strategic positions, key factories, bases, R&D centers, even universities, all need to beef up security, and in certain cases, air defense, in hedge hog fashion. Otherwise, each new crazy act by Ukraine would challenge the peace time mindset and creating the impression that the government is not doing its jobs.
It started with Obama & end with Trump.
The Russians are advancing that quickly right now, they just entered Pokrovsk earlier on & they're not facing very much standing in their way.
all suicidal options
We can hope for some good news.
“The main problem is the survival instinct..."
Yeah, what is it they say about that?
Something like (Google says), "Top 11 phrases to express surprise
Oh my God!
Explanation: “Oh my God!” is a widely used phrase to express surprise, shock, or disbelief. ...
No way! Explanation: “No way!” is an informal phrase used to express disbelief or astonishment. ...
Are you serious? ...
Holy cow! ...
What a surprise! ...
That's incredible! ...
Wow! ...
You're kidding!"
Sarcasm aside, you get the point.
"Ukraine’s successes in Kharkov, Kherson," 'Comparing & Contrasting Russia’s Pullbacks From Kharkov & Kherson Regions', ANDREW KORYBKO, NOV 10, 2022"
Yeah, no offence intended, Andrew, but you know what they say about politics — 'A week is a long time (in politics).'. That's what Harold Wilson said some time, when he was managing to stay OUT of Vietnam (late 60's). Just imagine how that works out when you HAVEN'T been able to resist your masters' call to administer a proxy war (with God-only-knows how many kept secret on the ground)! A week may be a long time, even when you don't have a war to worry about, but a year... When there's a(n undeclared) war on... [choose from 'Google' expressions above]
It might even be a little easier if someone HAD had the balls to declare it (but no-one has). Just look how it's consolidated the will of the Russians in Russia! Obviously, no-one could expect that here (because we (they) are on the wrong side and doing someone else's bidding) but IF we (they) WEREN'T... Just imagine!
But, hey, when you're losing, you're losing: all time seems to drag out forever and a day and SUCK!
10/11/22... OK, so it's not 9/11 (the numbers are the right way around) but you get the point.
Hey, no offence intended!
"None of these three precedents suggests that Ukraine is capable of beating Russia head-to-head at maneuver warfare."
Yeah, but it's not the Ukrainians, is it?
Not to worry: the Russians have been whooping all three shades of shit out of the Americans and their NATO for more than two years now (and a good year, however you might like to count) despite the difficulties, setbacks, teething troubles you so accurately point out here. Without going nuclear, and this has always been the Americans' problem, there's pretty much Jack Poo-poo, as they say, or sweet FA, they can do to change the ultimate outcome. I reckon, if they hadn't pulled it on the Japs in '45, they might have a bit more Karma to pull out of their hat (or arse) now.
"...speculate which vector(s) Russia would move into..."
OK: 1) Odessa (for Transnistria), 2) Lvov. Piss on Kiev (Who wants it?)! Make a rump state to send all the wannabe Banderite-L+G+B+T+etc.-Hitlers to then seal if off, like North Korea. If they turn out to be as clever and resourceful as the (North) Koreans, they may also enjoy similar status in half a century or so; could give Lvov back to the Poles, just to shut everyone else up.
"...swap whatever Kiev controls in Kursk for whatever Moscow controls in Kharkov..."
Yeah, right... С'час!
"...it might try to cut the Gordian knot through a series of swaps or escalations instead."
Yeah, probably more sensible to try that BEFORE Odessa or Lvov need to be bargained for (and the Poles won't give up Lvov).
"...try crossing Russia’s non-negotiable red lines as part of a dangerous gamble to “escalate to de-escalate”..."
Ho-hum: been there, done that, got the T-shirt... Didn't do much good, did it? What evidence is there to demonstrate it might work better yet another time?
"...everyone will eventually see what Kiev ultimately does."
You say that as if 'Kiev' or 'the Ukrainians' were't surrounded by inverted commas, as if they had something to do with it?!