Pavel’s former high-ranking position in NATO imbues him with deep insight into Western military-strategic thinking, which is why his interview is worth reviewing.
“The Ukrainian Conflict Might Continue Raging For A Few More Years…”
I just can’t see that happening. Ukraine has lost 80% of its electrical grid. The oil and gas network will be next. The people are fed up with gunpoint conscriptions and overflowing cemeteries. Zelensky made an enormous gamble with the Kursk incursion, but will lose many of his best troops. I foresee revolution by mid-winter…
I mean, hugging trees is one thing, but living without electricity...
Well, we've been told (ad nauseum) how plucky and fiesty and tough and clever and resilient and innovative and adaptable and wonderful these (NATO-funded AZOV battalion) Ukrainians are. Maybe they want to prove it; pay for some of what they've had?
Die männlichen Ukrainer gehen aus. Die Mobilisierung findet dort seit langem unter Zwang statt – sie greifen sich jeden, den sie auf der Straße erwischen. Bald schickt die
The male Ukrainians are going out. Mobilisation has been taking place there under duress for a long time - they grab anyone they catch on the street. NATO will soon be sending its soldiers to Ukraine....
Ukrainian men are going out. Mobilization has long been forced there - they grab anyone they see on the street. Soon NATO will send its soldiers to Ukraine....
I cannot see Russia allowing even a diminished Ukraine entry in NATO. This neutrality will always be demanded of it. It is only Russia that can insure Ukraine's security, nobody else. In this struggle, US/NATO MUST absolutely loose.
And we don't know if Ukrainians can endure for couple of more years, which will be harder and harder.
Die USA hat nach Ende des II. WK die Kontrolle über West-Europa mit der NATO Gründung 1949 übernommen. Bei der Gründung waren 12 Europäische Staaten dabei, bis heute sind weitere 32 Staaten aus Ost und West dazugekommen. Neue Kandidaten stehen bereit, gewollt oder ungewollt. Das ist das Ziel der Weltmacht USA!!!
After the end of World War II, the USA took control of Western Europe with the founding of NATO in 1949. 12 European states were involved in the founding, and to date a further 32 states from East and West have joined. New candidates are ready, willing or unwilling. That is the goal of the world power USA!!!
Reading Pavel's views, I believe that NATO can be grateful that Pavel is no longer the Secretary General, given that Stoltenberg hasn't exactly been the sharpest tool in the shed, but Pavel could in all probability have been worse.
Anyone who has taken an interest in rhe conflict in the Ukraine, and followed events closely will have noted how the Ukrainian collapse is starting to set in, together with extreme desperation, with the attack on Kursk being a prime example.
NATO membership for the Ukraine will also Never be an acceptable condition for a peace plan.
Es ist nichts vernünftiges vom "Idioten-Verein NATO" zu erwarten!!!
Die NATO, die tödlichste Terrororganisation auf Erden…Wenn die NATO nach dem Ende des Kalten Krieges aufgelöst worden wäre, dann würden heute Millionen von Toten noch leben. Das ist die Wahrheit.
Since west will wage a cold war after this hot war, russia should not allow an independent Ukraine. It will serve as warning to all those mid sized and small countries eager to profit from wars against Russia and China.
"...former high-ranking position in NATO imbues him with deep insight..."
Fair enough.
But this rather undermines his credibility: "The US, the EU, and China could then make significant contributions to the peace process."
It would seem he labours under the illusion, or even actively nurtures the delusion, the the EU is somehow separate from the US and therefore may have some fantastic role to play contributing as an equal among peers to the US and China (and Russia) in the peace process. Harbouring such misperception, even if it is a simple fallacy of misunderstanding, rather than an active effort to sustain delusion, does much to taint the ideas he espouses, i.e. undermines his credibility. Insight may be as flawed as it is deep.
If the US blew up NordStream, the EU would hardly be any more able than it is likely to object, would it? Not participating in the decision, nor being able to overrule it, makes it NOT a contributor of equal significance. If things took place as Seymour Hersh described, would the EU have been able to, assuming it had wanted to, overrule the US to stop the attack? How could it then be proposed to carry equal weight, separate to the US in a real adult-like (NOT coke-fuelled) peace process involving China, Russia and the US? Perhaps the assumption is that China will speak for Russia, as one voice and vote, and the US and EU will each get a separate voice and vote against Russia/China's one combined?
I'm sure this guy understands a lot about how NATO thinks but the deep insight provided by his high-ranking position doesn't seem to have done much for his simple logic. And I don't think the Chinese, nor the Russians, are going to miss that, nor let it slip under the wire (for the Exceptional).
Nonetheless, you are quite right to present this. It is as enlightening as it is interesting — very. Thank you!
Russia shall bomb all bridges on Dniepr and Dniestr Rivers, shall bomb western embassies in Kiev. Additionally Russia shall bomb port in Odessa, roads to romania and poland. No need for apology otherwise Russia will be destroyed
I don't expect them to '...bomb all bridges on Dniepr and Dniestr Rivers, shall bomb western embassies in Kiev.' etc.
But I do expect them to prevail, and I don't expect that to be done in any other than the most professional manner, which may take longer than most would like.
You know how many people died as a result of the aerial strikes today, which virtually eradicated the Ukraine's ability to prosecute war? Six (6x) people, and the country's electricity grid was shut down, not to mention damage to gas-pumping facilities throughout the country. Precision work like that, which shuts down industry's capacity to provide for the war with minimal casualties, is a difficult thing to carry out. It takes time.
They could, of course, nuke everyone and everything but I think they're particularly eager not to be seen to replicate the Americans' 'Shock and Awe' (ineffective) means of waging war. When all is said and done, it is they (the Russians) who will restore order in the Ukraine; best not to alienate too many people nor do too much damage in the process. It takes time.
As I said, they'll do it when the time is right; they wait for 'the right time'.
Yes, they learnt a lot from hostilities and the re-establishment of controlled authority in Chechnya.
I'm confident they will prevail in the Ukraine.
This is even more difficult than Chechnya because they need to set up a Ukrainian (rump, not puppet) state, rather than simply re-establishing authority on their own territory.
Still, I remain confident they are going about it the right way and will eventually prevail.
“The Ukrainian Conflict Might Continue Raging For A Few More Years…”
I just can’t see that happening. Ukraine has lost 80% of its electrical grid. The oil and gas network will be next. The people are fed up with gunpoint conscriptions and overflowing cemeteries. Zelensky made an enormous gamble with the Kursk incursion, but will lose many of his best troops. I foresee revolution by mid-winter…
"Ukraine has lost 80% of its electrical grid."
Hey, maybe they like life without electricity?
I mean, hugging trees is one thing, but living without electricity...
Well, we've been told (ad nauseum) how plucky and fiesty and tough and clever and resilient and innovative and adaptable and wonderful these (NATO-funded AZOV battalion) Ukrainians are. Maybe they want to prove it; pay for some of what they've had?
You think a farmer cares if his chickens are happy?
Die männlichen Ukrainer gehen aus. Die Mobilisierung findet dort seit langem unter Zwang statt – sie greifen sich jeden, den sie auf der Straße erwischen. Bald schickt die
NATO ihre Soldaten in die Ukraine....
The male Ukrainians are going out. Mobilisation has been taking place there under duress for a long time - they grab anyone they catch on the street. NATO will soon be sending its soldiers to Ukraine....
Google translate:
Ukrainian men are going out. Mobilization has long been forced there - they grab anyone they see on the street. Soon NATO will send its soldiers to Ukraine....
If not revolution, the exhaustion of Western arms supplies is imminent.
The guy is delusional.
I cannot see Russia allowing even a diminished Ukraine entry in NATO. This neutrality will always be demanded of it. It is only Russia that can insure Ukraine's security, nobody else. In this struggle, US/NATO MUST absolutely loose.
And we don't know if Ukrainians can endure for couple of more years, which will be harder and harder.
Also Serbia is assuredly arming Ukraine in secret. Among others.
Note that we no longer hear about how "Ukraine is running out of shells!"
Actually we do. UKR soldiers in DOnbas are complaining they are short of shells and troops as well.
Yeah, but complaining is what they do.
New supply sources, yes. Sustainable source ? That remains to be seen. Note SK has pretty strong MIC production capacity.
Die USA hat nach Ende des II. WK die Kontrolle über West-Europa mit der NATO Gründung 1949 übernommen. Bei der Gründung waren 12 Europäische Staaten dabei, bis heute sind weitere 32 Staaten aus Ost und West dazugekommen. Neue Kandidaten stehen bereit, gewollt oder ungewollt. Das ist das Ziel der Weltmacht USA!!!
Google translate:
After the end of World War II, the USA took control of Western Europe with the founding of NATO in 1949. 12 European states were involved in the founding, and to date a further 32 states from East and West have joined. New candidates are ready, willing or unwilling. That is the goal of the world power USA!!!
Reading Pavel's views, I believe that NATO can be grateful that Pavel is no longer the Secretary General, given that Stoltenberg hasn't exactly been the sharpest tool in the shed, but Pavel could in all probability have been worse.
Anyone who has taken an interest in rhe conflict in the Ukraine, and followed events closely will have noted how the Ukrainian collapse is starting to set in, together with extreme desperation, with the attack on Kursk being a prime example.
NATO membership for the Ukraine will also Never be an acceptable condition for a peace plan.
Es ist nichts vernünftiges vom "Idioten-Verein NATO" zu erwarten!!!
Die NATO, die tödlichste Terrororganisation auf Erden…Wenn die NATO nach dem Ende des Kalten Krieges aufgelöst worden wäre, dann würden heute Millionen von Toten noch leben. Das ist die Wahrheit.
Since west will wage a cold war after this hot war, russia should not allow an independent Ukraine. It will serve as warning to all those mid sized and small countries eager to profit from wars against Russia and China.
"...former high-ranking position in NATO imbues him with deep insight..."
Fair enough.
But this rather undermines his credibility: "The US, the EU, and China could then make significant contributions to the peace process."
It would seem he labours under the illusion, or even actively nurtures the delusion, the the EU is somehow separate from the US and therefore may have some fantastic role to play contributing as an equal among peers to the US and China (and Russia) in the peace process. Harbouring such misperception, even if it is a simple fallacy of misunderstanding, rather than an active effort to sustain delusion, does much to taint the ideas he espouses, i.e. undermines his credibility. Insight may be as flawed as it is deep.
If the US blew up NordStream, the EU would hardly be any more able than it is likely to object, would it? Not participating in the decision, nor being able to overrule it, makes it NOT a contributor of equal significance. If things took place as Seymour Hersh described, would the EU have been able to, assuming it had wanted to, overrule the US to stop the attack? How could it then be proposed to carry equal weight, separate to the US in a real adult-like (NOT coke-fuelled) peace process involving China, Russia and the US? Perhaps the assumption is that China will speak for Russia, as one voice and vote, and the US and EU will each get a separate voice and vote against Russia/China's one combined?
I'm sure this guy understands a lot about how NATO thinks but the deep insight provided by his high-ranking position doesn't seem to have done much for his simple logic. And I don't think the Chinese, nor the Russians, are going to miss that, nor let it slip under the wire (for the Exceptional).
Nonetheless, you are quite right to present this. It is as enlightening as it is interesting — very. Thank you!
Russia shall bomb all bridges on Dniepr and Dniestr Rivers, shall bomb western embassies in Kiev. Additionally Russia shall bomb port in Odessa, roads to romania and poland. No need for apology otherwise Russia will be destroyed
So what is Russia waiting for?
The right time.
Well, they've been playing footsie for two years now.
Stop kidding yourself.
I don't expect them to '...bomb all bridges on Dniepr and Dniestr Rivers, shall bomb western embassies in Kiev.' etc.
But I do expect them to prevail, and I don't expect that to be done in any other than the most professional manner, which may take longer than most would like.
You know how many people died as a result of the aerial strikes today, which virtually eradicated the Ukraine's ability to prosecute war? Six (6x) people, and the country's electricity grid was shut down, not to mention damage to gas-pumping facilities throughout the country. Precision work like that, which shuts down industry's capacity to provide for the war with minimal casualties, is a difficult thing to carry out. It takes time.
They could, of course, nuke everyone and everything but I think they're particularly eager not to be seen to replicate the Americans' 'Shock and Awe' (ineffective) means of waging war. When all is said and done, it is they (the Russians) who will restore order in the Ukraine; best not to alienate too many people nor do too much damage in the process. It takes time.
As I said, they'll do it when the time is right; they wait for 'the right time'.
Does Russia wish to be nice or do they wish to win? Otherwise, it sounds like cope.
Note that Russian felt no such qualms during the Second Chechen War.
Yes, they learnt a lot from hostilities and the re-establishment of controlled authority in Chechnya.
I'm confident they will prevail in the Ukraine.
This is even more difficult than Chechnya because they need to set up a Ukrainian (rump, not puppet) state, rather than simply re-establishing authority on their own territory.
Still, I remain confident they are going about it the right way and will eventually prevail.