Some Americans might no longer feel comfortable living in the US after the “deep state” de facto criminalized the First Amendment in certain political contexts.
Nobody influences elections more than the USA, NOBODY! It uses soft power like USAID, NGOs, Radio Free Europe, and the media in countless countries to undermine governments that do not worship at the altar of Satan in Washington, D.C.
When money and influence don't work, it resorts to assassinations, coups, and direct military intervention. That's "meddling" in other nations' affairs!
Russiagate 101 has been proven false in its entirety, and more than once. Yet, the desperate Dems are now putting forth Russiagate 2.0 and sadly, many Murikkans will swallow it.
The truth of the matter is, Russia, China and most other nations see the USA for what it is: a liar, a bully, and an assassin with a record of meddling since its beginning. The emperor has no clothes!
At some point every opinion can be called propaganda - if you’re trying to persuade. But so what? This is life in the big city. I don’t need well meaning government bureaucrats to keep me safe from wrongthink.
This election is all about the collapse of the Democratic party, the craziness of Joe Biden and the vapidness of Kamela Harris. If Harris wins nothing happens, if Trump wins anything could happen. The candidates are just puppets to the agents of chaos not about to end any time soon.
"Some Americans might no longer feel comfortable living in the US...."
Or Canadians, where a similar exodus is just getting started.
I have a question for you Andrew. Back in 2018 I started planning to move to Russia, first step of which was to visit and size the place up. Well that plan was derailed by the 'pandemic' and now the war and subsequent sanctions, which makes it difficult to get out just as Russia is making it easier to get in. There's irony for you.
One thing that came up in the interim which gave me pause was Russia's response to the "pandemic" which seemed to be following the WHO/WEF script to the letter, including vaccine passports as well as their own domestically produced 'vaccine' Sputnik V, which while slightly different from the western versions is still an experimental gene therapy, so not really a vaccine at all. Probably just as harmful too, going by the fact that they rolled out a couple of conventional vaccines not long afterwards. Hard to get solid data on the effects, but by inference, since it uses the same approach as the western 'vaccines' I'm sure it must have fucked a lot of people up.
So the question(s)....
Is there a Russian equivalent to the FLCCC <https://covid19criticalcare.com/> or Children's Health Defence <https://childrenshealthdefense.org/> and similar organizations? I can't find any. I also can't find the Russian equivalent of the various substacks and other blogs taking a critical stand against the pandemic response and 'vaccine' policies. All I get when I search on Yandex is the standard boilerplate - no different from the west.
I'd like to believe that the Russian govt. was mislead by a 5th column within their own medical community, but I can't find any evidence of that either. The fact that they followed the WHO/WEF line is very distressing because it indicates they're either "in on it" as Latypova believes, or they aren't as good at rooting out subversion as one might expect.
In either case, why move to a place only to run into the same authoritarian health measures as where you left from? At least here I can hide more effectively.
Hi Andrew! I would like to know if there is any influence in the US in the dissemination of ideas that question capitalist logic and the manipulation of the working class and that propose a change in the capitalist mode of production! As far as I know, so far, only the Zeitgeist Movement does so! Finally, I congratulate you for your patience in continuing to respond to those who think inside the box and cannot perceive the class interests that permeate the dispute between Democrats and Republicans and those who still believe (based on faith and not on LOGIC) that filling out a ballot every 4 years will change their own destinies! The most ironic thing is that both fight each other, polarizing and defending the interests of the rich (fractions of capital) and never question the fact that they continue to be exploited through misery and the structural violence inherent and necessary to the functioning of the capitalist system!
Come on like it isn't likely that Russia tries to influence the us politics. It's been YEARS that Russia infiltrated the UE and US media landscapes and spread its propaganda. The proofs are clear
I read the indictment and hyperlinked to it so that others could too if they want, and it doesn't seem like this alleged operation was all that impactful though.
At most, they encouraged some of their unaware conservative pundit partners to emphasize Ukraine's links to the Crocus terrorist attack.
For all the money that was spent on this, that's a pretty pitiful outcome, wouldn't you agree? They had no control over any of their clients' editorial policies.
Russia also hasn't "infiltrated" the EU and US media landscapes. None of their top outlets are under "Russian influence", but some liberals imagine that they are any time that they publish something critical of Ukraine.
1. When did I say that? And I have never said, nor I think, NYT, The Guardian, etc are infiltrated.
2. Yes of course. But it's undiniable that, influenced or not (I don't have proofs other than his ties with his russians investors), he is spreading info favorable to Russia, close to what the same Putin say.
3. Nah, the russian bots are a lot more spread than the us-ukrainian ones.
I would comment on the other ones, but I don't have time.
I'm not triggered by this specific piace, but by his underlying propaganda.
Russia is actively trying to influence EU and US opinions with covert operations. This is a fact
1. You said that Russia "infiltrated" EU and US media, which isn't true.
2. People have independent agency and can arrive at similar ideas as someone else on their own without being "influenced".
3. No, Ukrainian and Western ones are all over the place.
4. Everyone tries to "influence" everyone else, but in this specific case, it didn't succeed and was more of a (expensive) "vanity project" than anything else.
How is that Russia hasn't infiltrated the media landscapes?
Would you care to remember who retweeted a looooot of times even posts from the influencers (Tim Pool, ecc.) of Tenet Company?
Elon Musk, with 195 milions followers and the boss of X. The same Elon Musk who bought Twitter with the help of a company controlled by two children of russian sanctioned oligarchs.
And that is just one example. On X it is full of Trump-supporter fake-bot accounts who steal images of girls to support Trump and his russian propaganda.
Would you care to comment the hundreds of spies arrested in the EU parliament and european parties like AFD. Would you care to comment the sabotages of german militare facilities?
Sure, I'll comment on everything just to expose you for your dishonest "interrogation", which is clear proof of you being triggered by what I wrote.
1. It's literally a fringe conspiracy theory to imagine that the NYT, WaPo, The Guardian, Bild, etc. are "infiltrated" by Russia.
2. Musk retweets whoever he wants, nobody is pulling his strings, he's fiercely independent.
3. I hate bots too, but they're not exclusively run by Russia. There are countless US and Ukrainian ones, I was attacked by thousands over the past two years.
4. There haven't been "hundreds of arrest", but hundreds of diplomatic expulsions. Those cases you're mentioning led to no policy changes.
5. I don't know who's sabotaging them, maybe Russian agents, but I noticed that you didn't accuse the West of being behind sabotage in Russia ;-)
Are you satisfied? Will you continue throwing your little hissy fit? I had no idea someone would be so triggered by this piece lol
It baffles me how you say that "yes, russia paid 10 milions $ (90% of its income) to a US media company, but yes no it's nothing, they didn't influence their content"
BRUH are you serious, how can you logically say that?
Yes, I'm absolutely serious, and you can see for yourself by reviewing those creators' materials that they held the views they hold before they signed those contracts and they didn't change since.
As I've maintained, the most that this alleged operation did was encourage them to continue creating the said content by giving them financial security, but it didn't result in promoting "Russian propaganda".
Someone can work for McDonalds for example but still prefer KFC, money doesn't always change people's opinions.
I agree that it wasn't that impactful. But that's not the point. The point is that Russia actively paid influencer on yt and X 10 millions $ basically to spread Russia propaganda. Considering that 10 millions for the Tenet Company was like 90% of their income, they surely had a lot of influence on what their employeers said. And we know that this isn't the only case. In your same article you cited at least a couple of examples like this.
That's not what happened though: none of those people ever pushed "Russian propaganda", they already had views that were critical of Biden (including on Ukraine) before signing their contracts with that company.
What really happened, at least according to the indictment, is that people were paid to encourage them to continue producing the content that they were already producing in the hopes that they'd cover Ukraine/Russia more.
No evidence exists as proven by the indictment themselves to suggest that the alleged Russian company had editorial control over their clients. Each continued to exert their independence and only did whatever they end up doing out of their own free will.
They weren't ever threatened to being dumped for not complying with some of those suspects' requests, which were mild in any case and nothing sensational like casual observers might imagine if they only relied on the headlines for guidance about this story.
Yea I don't doubt that. But I think you can agree that when 90% of your salary comes from a russian affiliated agency, you will say what they like, it's obvious.
And yes, they spread russian propaganda. "Ukraine was behind the crocus attack" is, objectively, russian propaganda.
And you contradicted yourself in your comment. First you say "the encouraged ..." and then "they had no control over any of their clients' editorial policies". Yes they obviously did.
And of course they did not emphazise. They created Ukraine's links to crocus attack, because they do not exist.
No, they obviously didn't, and that's an objectively existing and easily verifiable fact that anyone can discover for themselves by simply skimming those creators' content.
The absolute vast majority of it concerns domestic US policy and covers it from a conservative angle that they had way before signing their deals with that company.
Nobody influences elections more than the USA, NOBODY! It uses soft power like USAID, NGOs, Radio Free Europe, and the media in countless countries to undermine governments that do not worship at the altar of Satan in Washington, D.C.
When money and influence don't work, it resorts to assassinations, coups, and direct military intervention. That's "meddling" in other nations' affairs!
Russiagate 101 has been proven false in its entirety, and more than once. Yet, the desperate Dems are now putting forth Russiagate 2.0 and sadly, many Murikkans will swallow it.
The truth of the matter is, Russia, China and most other nations see the USA for what it is: a liar, a bully, and an assassin with a record of meddling since its beginning. The emperor has no clothes!
At some point every opinion can be called propaganda - if you’re trying to persuade. But so what? This is life in the big city. I don’t need well meaning government bureaucrats to keep me safe from wrongthink.
I’m horrified by what’s happening to these journalists
This election is all about the collapse of the Democratic party, the craziness of Joe Biden and the vapidness of Kamela Harris. If Harris wins nothing happens, if Trump wins anything could happen. The candidates are just puppets to the agents of chaos not about to end any time soon.
"Some Americans might no longer feel comfortable living in the US...."
Or Canadians, where a similar exodus is just getting started.
I have a question for you Andrew. Back in 2018 I started planning to move to Russia, first step of which was to visit and size the place up. Well that plan was derailed by the 'pandemic' and now the war and subsequent sanctions, which makes it difficult to get out just as Russia is making it easier to get in. There's irony for you.
One thing that came up in the interim which gave me pause was Russia's response to the "pandemic" which seemed to be following the WHO/WEF script to the letter, including vaccine passports as well as their own domestically produced 'vaccine' Sputnik V, which while slightly different from the western versions is still an experimental gene therapy, so not really a vaccine at all. Probably just as harmful too, going by the fact that they rolled out a couple of conventional vaccines not long afterwards. Hard to get solid data on the effects, but by inference, since it uses the same approach as the western 'vaccines' I'm sure it must have fucked a lot of people up.
So the question(s)....
Is there a Russian equivalent to the FLCCC <https://covid19criticalcare.com/> or Children's Health Defence <https://childrenshealthdefense.org/> and similar organizations? I can't find any. I also can't find the Russian equivalent of the various substacks and other blogs taking a critical stand against the pandemic response and 'vaccine' policies. All I get when I search on Yandex is the standard boilerplate - no different from the west.
I'd like to believe that the Russian govt. was mislead by a 5th column within their own medical community, but I can't find any evidence of that either. The fact that they followed the WHO/WEF line is very distressing because it indicates they're either "in on it" as Latypova believes, or they aren't as good at rooting out subversion as one might expect.
In either case, why move to a place only to run into the same authoritarian health measures as where you left from? At least here I can hide more effectively.
Death upon the heads of all Democrats!
Hi Andrew! I would like to know if there is any influence in the US in the dissemination of ideas that question capitalist logic and the manipulation of the working class and that propose a change in the capitalist mode of production! As far as I know, so far, only the Zeitgeist Movement does so! Finally, I congratulate you for your patience in continuing to respond to those who think inside the box and cannot perceive the class interests that permeate the dispute between Democrats and Republicans and those who still believe (based on faith and not on LOGIC) that filling out a ballot every 4 years will change their own destinies! The most ironic thing is that both fight each other, polarizing and defending the interests of the rich (fractions of capital) and never question the fact that they continue to be exploited through misery and the structural violence inherent and necessary to the functioning of the capitalist system!
Looks like USSR did no wrong banning western Propaganda when US bans a little media group and how scott Ritter fell in line
Come on like it isn't likely that Russia tries to influence the us politics. It's been YEARS that Russia infiltrated the UE and US media landscapes and spread its propaganda. The proofs are clear
I read the indictment and hyperlinked to it so that others could too if they want, and it doesn't seem like this alleged operation was all that impactful though.
At most, they encouraged some of their unaware conservative pundit partners to emphasize Ukraine's links to the Crocus terrorist attack.
For all the money that was spent on this, that's a pretty pitiful outcome, wouldn't you agree? They had no control over any of their clients' editorial policies.
Russia also hasn't "infiltrated" the EU and US media landscapes. None of their top outlets are under "Russian influence", but some liberals imagine that they are any time that they publish something critical of Ukraine.
1. When did I say that? And I have never said, nor I think, NYT, The Guardian, etc are infiltrated.
2. Yes of course. But it's undiniable that, influenced or not (I don't have proofs other than his ties with his russians investors), he is spreading info favorable to Russia, close to what the same Putin say.
3. Nah, the russian bots are a lot more spread than the us-ukrainian ones.
I would comment on the other ones, but I don't have time.
I'm not triggered by this specific piace, but by his underlying propaganda.
Russia is actively trying to influence EU and US opinions with covert operations. This is a fact
1. You said that Russia "infiltrated" EU and US media, which isn't true.
2. People have independent agency and can arrive at similar ideas as someone else on their own without being "influenced".
3. No, Ukrainian and Western ones are all over the place.
4. Everyone tries to "influence" everyone else, but in this specific case, it didn't succeed and was more of a (expensive) "vanity project" than anything else.
How is that Russia hasn't infiltrated the media landscapes?
Would you care to remember who retweeted a looooot of times even posts from the influencers (Tim Pool, ecc.) of Tenet Company?
Elon Musk, with 195 milions followers and the boss of X. The same Elon Musk who bought Twitter with the help of a company controlled by two children of russian sanctioned oligarchs.
And that is just one example. On X it is full of Trump-supporter fake-bot accounts who steal images of girls to support Trump and his russian propaganda.
Would you care to comment the hundreds of spies arrested in the EU parliament and european parties like AFD. Would you care to comment the sabotages of german militare facilities?
Sure, I'll comment on everything just to expose you for your dishonest "interrogation", which is clear proof of you being triggered by what I wrote.
1. It's literally a fringe conspiracy theory to imagine that the NYT, WaPo, The Guardian, Bild, etc. are "infiltrated" by Russia.
2. Musk retweets whoever he wants, nobody is pulling his strings, he's fiercely independent.
3. I hate bots too, but they're not exclusively run by Russia. There are countless US and Ukrainian ones, I was attacked by thousands over the past two years.
4. There haven't been "hundreds of arrest", but hundreds of diplomatic expulsions. Those cases you're mentioning led to no policy changes.
5. I don't know who's sabotaging them, maybe Russian agents, but I noticed that you didn't accuse the West of being behind sabotage in Russia ;-)
Are you satisfied? Will you continue throwing your little hissy fit? I had no idea someone would be so triggered by this piece lol
"I had no idea someone would be so triggered by this piece lol"
Forget it Jake, it's the internet.
I swear this is the last comment.
It baffles me how you say that "yes, russia paid 10 milions $ (90% of its income) to a US media company, but yes no it's nothing, they didn't influence their content"
BRUH are you serious, how can you logically say that?
Yes, I'm absolutely serious, and you can see for yourself by reviewing those creators' materials that they held the views they hold before they signed those contracts and they didn't change since.
As I've maintained, the most that this alleged operation did was encourage them to continue creating the said content by giving them financial security, but it didn't result in promoting "Russian propaganda".
Someone can work for McDonalds for example but still prefer KFC, money doesn't always change people's opinions.
And so what if they did? In a free country one ought to be able to read the foreign press.
I agree that it wasn't that impactful. But that's not the point. The point is that Russia actively paid influencer on yt and X 10 millions $ basically to spread Russia propaganda. Considering that 10 millions for the Tenet Company was like 90% of their income, they surely had a lot of influence on what their employeers said. And we know that this isn't the only case. In your same article you cited at least a couple of examples like this.
That's not what happened though: none of those people ever pushed "Russian propaganda", they already had views that were critical of Biden (including on Ukraine) before signing their contracts with that company.
What really happened, at least according to the indictment, is that people were paid to encourage them to continue producing the content that they were already producing in the hopes that they'd cover Ukraine/Russia more.
No evidence exists as proven by the indictment themselves to suggest that the alleged Russian company had editorial control over their clients. Each continued to exert their independence and only did whatever they end up doing out of their own free will.
They weren't ever threatened to being dumped for not complying with some of those suspects' requests, which were mild in any case and nothing sensational like casual observers might imagine if they only relied on the headlines for guidance about this story.
Yea I don't doubt that. But I think you can agree that when 90% of your salary comes from a russian affiliated agency, you will say what they like, it's obvious.
And yes, they spread russian propaganda. "Ukraine was behind the crocus attack" is, objectively, russian propaganda.
No, you're wrong: again, their views on these issues were articulated before they signed their contracts, and they didn't change afterwards.
Again, no, the suspects were caught fleeing to Ukraine, but you of course leave that out of your little narrative :-)
What are you trying to achieve? You're not going to pressure me into self-censoring or changing my views, nobody has ever succeeded with that.
If you think you're "exposing" me like some trolls imagine, well, you're actually exposing yourself by letting me debunk you and then dunk you lol
It’s not the government’s job to decide what is and what is not foreign propaganda. It’s the job of sentient adults to decide what to believe or not.
Influence US elections to do what and how?
And you contradicted yourself in your comment. First you say "the encouraged ..." and then "they had no control over any of their clients' editorial policies". Yes they obviously did.
And of course they did not emphazise. They created Ukraine's links to crocus attack, because they do not exist.
No, they obviously didn't, and that's an objectively existing and easily verifiable fact that anyone can discover for themselves by simply skimming those creators' content.
The absolute vast majority of it concerns domestic US policy and covers it from a conservative angle that they had way before signing their deals with that company.
You say the links do not exist but maybe you are indulging in propaganda? Which is fine.