That’s thinking outside of the box! (but stranger things have happened…) The whole idea of sanctions against Russia is a joke - we know they’re selling oil to the EU through India. 🤷♂️
Thanks, and indeed, a lot of things aren't what they seem to be and that's the key in my opinion to clinching a grand compromise (per my understanding of each relevant party's interests).
Compromise is solution when majority of parties with interest cannot achieve or are finding it too difficult or costly to achieve their goal.
At the moment, war of attrition is clearly in the winning phase by one side. Hence the flood of western media articles of a supposed "stalemate" and supposed Putin's need to reach ceasefire asap. West needs a pause to catch a breath....
Why would Russia support the EU by supplying them with cheap oil and gas? That's like giving your enemy the resources they need to defeat you. It would be far more beneficial to Russia to starve the EU of cheap energy resources and force them to keep paying higher prices, leading to higher inflation and the ensuing crippling of their industries, lower GDP and civil unrest. Meanwhile, Russia keeps expanding its industries and GDP with low energy costs and profits from higher global energy costs that it can sell at a slight markdown to friendly allies who can then sell it at a markup to the West if they choose. lol. That's a win-win for Russia. Russia recoups its loss from Nordstream by forcing higher oil and gas prices while making its industries much more competitive globally. The West will never be friendly to Russia. So Russia needs to break out of the G20 and UN instead of being its lapdog, constantly undermined, and forge ahead eastward and establish increasing ties and business through BRICS and other groups. It has been proven again and again that the West does not abide by contracts or agreements. Its only intention is to weaken and take over Russia's natural wealth by all means possible, just as it tried in Ukraine. But it seems that Russia tends to cave into Western demands incapable of asserting itself vulnerable to further abuse likely facilitated by treasonous Russian oligarchs driven by profit through its ties with the West. It's time for Russia to make a bold stand, assert itself and stop being sycophant to the West like it has been since 1945. Time to grow up, Russia. Now would be an opportune time.
You left out an important bit that Russia is a capitalist economy and wants to be part of the West and did not want to commence the SMO but was forced to unwillingly. Maybe I am wrong but it seems a compromise seems more desired than a decisive solution/victory though I surely hope I am proved wrong.
You left out the reality part, where Russia says -- get outta here. we should sell Germany our gas through a pipeline we built that was destroyed by the US and its agents so that one day again the US can "punish" us for something by blowing it up again? The very act of publicizing this big of flim-flammery suggests that the US lacks options. I think this is not just a "long-shot," it isn't going to happen short of a settlement of this war to Russia's satisfaction. And I think hell will freeze over before Russia again allows the US to control its economic fortunes.
Of equally low probability: the Americans accept responsibility for what they've done and undertake to make reparations, e.g. for stopping the pipeline by terrorist act, reimbursing consequently lost revenue, compensating ecological damage (How?)... They'd need a whole new COP-type conference deal to even start scratching the surface of how to sort this out, and I don't think Trump is too enamoured of COP-like conferences. You think the Russians will be happy to be bought out on the cheap by the Americans at auction, while the Americans continue to deny their involvement? Possible, perhaps; but how probable?
As probable as it was that the Salisbury poisonings (2018) were the result of the Russians using chemical weapons there, as it was likely sycophantic then-Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson employed Porton Down to do the job, with a view to ingratiating Britain to the US to enjoy a special relationship forever and ever? Just how likely, in view of events as they've unfolded since?
Thank you for this contribution Mr Andrew Korybko. As already in your contribution - The US' Charges Against Gautam Adani Are Biden’s Malicious Parting Gift To Modi - I would like to refer partially to my answer there.
We are probably agreed that everything is connected with everything and should never be considered detached from other topics, as you have done here again.
So I will go into a topic that was addressed in 2 books - Operation Ljutsch - Schlüssel zur Deutschen Einheit 2 volumes and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnVaIXS9HzU 1989 Mauerfall Berlin - Michael Wolski. Helmut Kohl had in his memoirs with his first ghostwriter taken a position on the alleged peaceful revolution in the GDR - by saying: "if people in the east believe they have initiated the change, let them believe it" These remarks were also I believe it was published in the SPIEGEL.
If we consider the statements of Helmut Kohl, former chancellor at the time of the Wende and Michael Wolski Insider as East German representative of a US company in the GDR, a picture emerges that many today reject for a conspiracy theory without dealing with it. There was obviously an agreement between the secret services KGB and CIA maybe also Mossad. 1985 the faceless man left the secret service of the GDR - Markus Wolf until then head of the foreign intelligence service of the Stasi of the GDR - In a film, a former high-ranking member of the Mossad he said to Wolf when he visited Israel after 1989:" If you had been working for, you would now be the retired Mossad chief" At the end of this film, it was also shown how this news service wanted to gain a foothold in the USA.
So why did Markus Wolf stop at this point? Did he already have information in 1985 that the border will fall? As shown in the documentary, he already had agents in US facilities in West Berlin.
Why do I now go into these stories and books?
I think that with rational thinking, the Ukraine conflict is not to be understood. Of course, Putin has explained why they are going so slowly, they want to protect civilians etc.
How is this conflict related to the one over Israel?
and yes we remember the statements of George Friedman 2015 at the Chicago Council Keyword for 100 years we fight a connection from Germany and Russia, because this connection is the only one that can become dangerous to us (the USA) (by analogy)
Is it wrong to present the thesis that the events of 1989/90 are a great production? The USA and RF have joined forces in the backroom of power?
In relation to Germany I always speak of Warburg (FED founding member) Scholz (SPD) and Blackrock Merz (CDU).
The actual actors could very well be 2 groups - 1.Gruppe Rothschild, Rockerfeller, Waburg and Co. and the 2nd group the financial capitalists around Blackrock, Vanquard and Co. - I like to draw the comparison with mafia structures, the young savages here the group around Blackrock and the old people like to be far away from the media and police and co. - Is that crazy?
If you consider this thesis as set, it makes sense. Mineral resources are important, but distribution channels are much more important, because without them the mineral resources do not come to the corporations. Since the financial capitalists have bought in all at least Western companies, one can only contain these young savages if one blocks them the distribution channels. The Gaza conflict broke out when gas was found in the Mediterranean Sea off the Gaza Strip, strangely on 7 October. the Israeli army was not on site according to Haaretz.
Ukraine was a means to an end when Nordstream 2 was about to go into operation. Nordstream 1 was functioning and could only be hindered by the fact that the pumps of Siemens (a German corporation infiltrated by Blackrock at least) could only be maintained in a Siemens plant in Canada. the pumps of Nordstream 2 line are Russian analogue.
This meant that the pipeline was out of reach for Blackrock.
With a bidding war, either the young feral are back on the move or the old men prevent this.
In any case, I don’t believe in coincidences, there’s a calculation behind it.
This pipeline should be owned by only European countries, Russia included. If there was USA interests or even Japanese interests in the pipeline, even in private corporate form, Russia should not pump gas. Russia has been selling her gas just fine. Leave the gas in the ground is just fine. Russia strategic materials have been flowing into USA through third parties. As long as Russia gets her due profit, I don't think Russia would care how much the middlemen do a markup.
The USA government is so corrupt, that I can see this possibility, but only after the frack-gas ponzi scheme collapses and there is nothing left to sell at inflated prices to EU>
Your thinking revolves around an unstated but certain conviction that Russia can not win this war militarily, and that it is genuinely afraid of the USA.
This sounds realistic, though many other non msm analysts seem to disagree with you on that.
That’s thinking outside of the box! (but stranger things have happened…) The whole idea of sanctions against Russia is a joke - we know they’re selling oil to the EU through India. 🤷♂️
Thanks, and indeed, a lot of things aren't what they seem to be and that's the key in my opinion to clinching a grand compromise (per my understanding of each relevant party's interests).
Compromise is solution when majority of parties with interest cannot achieve or are finding it too difficult or costly to achieve their goal.
At the moment, war of attrition is clearly in the winning phase by one side. Hence the flood of western media articles of a supposed "stalemate" and supposed Putin's need to reach ceasefire asap. West needs a pause to catch a breath....
Why would Russia support the EU by supplying them with cheap oil and gas? That's like giving your enemy the resources they need to defeat you. It would be far more beneficial to Russia to starve the EU of cheap energy resources and force them to keep paying higher prices, leading to higher inflation and the ensuing crippling of their industries, lower GDP and civil unrest. Meanwhile, Russia keeps expanding its industries and GDP with low energy costs and profits from higher global energy costs that it can sell at a slight markdown to friendly allies who can then sell it at a markup to the West if they choose. lol. That's a win-win for Russia. Russia recoups its loss from Nordstream by forcing higher oil and gas prices while making its industries much more competitive globally. The West will never be friendly to Russia. So Russia needs to break out of the G20 and UN instead of being its lapdog, constantly undermined, and forge ahead eastward and establish increasing ties and business through BRICS and other groups. It has been proven again and again that the West does not abide by contracts or agreements. Its only intention is to weaken and take over Russia's natural wealth by all means possible, just as it tried in Ukraine. But it seems that Russia tends to cave into Western demands incapable of asserting itself vulnerable to further abuse likely facilitated by treasonous Russian oligarchs driven by profit through its ties with the West. It's time for Russia to make a bold stand, assert itself and stop being sycophant to the West like it has been since 1945. Time to grow up, Russia. Now would be an opportune time.
You left out an important bit that Russia is a capitalist economy and wants to be part of the West and did not want to commence the SMO but was forced to unwillingly. Maybe I am wrong but it seems a compromise seems more desired than a decisive solution/victory though I surely hope I am proved wrong.
They were involved in the damage, so why not .
You left out the reality part, where Russia says -- get outta here. we should sell Germany our gas through a pipeline we built that was destroyed by the US and its agents so that one day again the US can "punish" us for something by blowing it up again? The very act of publicizing this big of flim-flammery suggests that the US lacks options. I think this is not just a "long-shot," it isn't going to happen short of a settlement of this war to Russia's satisfaction. And I think hell will freeze over before Russia again allows the US to control its economic fortunes.
"...a low-probability but high-impact scenario."
Of equally low probability: the Americans accept responsibility for what they've done and undertake to make reparations, e.g. for stopping the pipeline by terrorist act, reimbursing consequently lost revenue, compensating ecological damage (How?)... They'd need a whole new COP-type conference deal to even start scratching the surface of how to sort this out, and I don't think Trump is too enamoured of COP-like conferences. You think the Russians will be happy to be bought out on the cheap by the Americans at auction, while the Americans continue to deny their involvement? Possible, perhaps; but how probable?
As probable as it was that the Salisbury poisonings (2018) were the result of the Russians using chemical weapons there, as it was likely sycophantic then-Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson employed Porton Down to do the job, with a view to ingratiating Britain to the US to enjoy a special relationship forever and ever? Just how likely, in view of events as they've unfolded since?
Thank you for this contribution Mr Andrew Korybko. As already in your contribution - The US' Charges Against Gautam Adani Are Biden’s Malicious Parting Gift To Modi - I would like to refer partially to my answer there.
We are probably agreed that everything is connected with everything and should never be considered detached from other topics, as you have done here again.
So I will go into a topic that was addressed in 2 books - Operation Ljutsch - Schlüssel zur Deutschen Einheit 2 volumes and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnVaIXS9HzU 1989 Mauerfall Berlin - Michael Wolski. Helmut Kohl had in his memoirs with his first ghostwriter taken a position on the alleged peaceful revolution in the GDR - by saying: "if people in the east believe they have initiated the change, let them believe it" These remarks were also I believe it was published in the SPIEGEL.
If we consider the statements of Helmut Kohl, former chancellor at the time of the Wende and Michael Wolski Insider as East German representative of a US company in the GDR, a picture emerges that many today reject for a conspiracy theory without dealing with it. There was obviously an agreement between the secret services KGB and CIA maybe also Mossad. 1985 the faceless man left the secret service of the GDR - Markus Wolf until then head of the foreign intelligence service of the Stasi of the GDR - In a film, a former high-ranking member of the Mossad he said to Wolf when he visited Israel after 1989:" If you had been working for, you would now be the retired Mossad chief" At the end of this film, it was also shown how this news service wanted to gain a foothold in the USA.
So why did Markus Wolf stop at this point? Did he already have information in 1985 that the border will fall? As shown in the documentary, he already had agents in US facilities in West Berlin.
Why do I now go into these stories and books?
I think that with rational thinking, the Ukraine conflict is not to be understood. Of course, Putin has explained why they are going so slowly, they want to protect civilians etc.
How is this conflict related to the one over Israel?
and yes we remember the statements of George Friedman 2015 at the Chicago Council Keyword for 100 years we fight a connection from Germany and Russia, because this connection is the only one that can become dangerous to us (the USA) (by analogy)
Is it wrong to present the thesis that the events of 1989/90 are a great production? The USA and RF have joined forces in the backroom of power?
In relation to Germany I always speak of Warburg (FED founding member) Scholz (SPD) and Blackrock Merz (CDU).
The actual actors could very well be 2 groups - 1.Gruppe Rothschild, Rockerfeller, Waburg and Co. and the 2nd group the financial capitalists around Blackrock, Vanquard and Co. - I like to draw the comparison with mafia structures, the young savages here the group around Blackrock and the old people like to be far away from the media and police and co. - Is that crazy?
If you consider this thesis as set, it makes sense. Mineral resources are important, but distribution channels are much more important, because without them the mineral resources do not come to the corporations. Since the financial capitalists have bought in all at least Western companies, one can only contain these young savages if one blocks them the distribution channels. The Gaza conflict broke out when gas was found in the Mediterranean Sea off the Gaza Strip, strangely on 7 October. the Israeli army was not on site according to Haaretz.
Ukraine was a means to an end when Nordstream 2 was about to go into operation. Nordstream 1 was functioning and could only be hindered by the fact that the pumps of Siemens (a German corporation infiltrated by Blackrock at least) could only be maintained in a Siemens plant in Canada. the pumps of Nordstream 2 line are Russian analogue.
This meant that the pipeline was out of reach for Blackrock.
With a bidding war, either the young feral are back on the move or the old men prevent this.
In any case, I don’t believe in coincidences, there’s a calculation behind it.
This pipeline should be owned by only European countries, Russia included. If there was USA interests or even Japanese interests in the pipeline, even in private corporate form, Russia should not pump gas. Russia has been selling her gas just fine. Leave the gas in the ground is just fine. Russia strategic materials have been flowing into USA through third parties. As long as Russia gets her due profit, I don't think Russia would care how much the middlemen do a markup.
Gtfo
It is an American slang phrase, "Get The F*** Out." In other words, that seems impossible but also too good to be true.
Americans controlling Nord Strram?
I don't think NATO/EU- major european countries especially,will do anything to harm their joint project, with US ,of world hegemony.
You know about all those navy visits by european countries and parliamentary resolutions on Xinjiang as uighur genocide etc.,
Provided for comment and not necessarily for truth:
https://budsoffshoreenergy.com/2024/11/22/more-nord-stream-intrigue-2/
The US should "allow" this, since it would be a mid-value card in a weakening US poker-hand, which could be played in several ways.
The USA government is so corrupt, that I can see this possibility, but only after the frack-gas ponzi scheme collapses and there is nothing left to sell at inflated prices to EU>
Don’t sell anything, if anyone is listening to me
Your thinking revolves around an unstated but certain conviction that Russia can not win this war militarily, and that it is genuinely afraid of the USA.
This sounds realistic, though many other non msm analysts seem to disagree with you on that.
Forgive me for repeating myself, but the Alt Media largely live in a fantasy world.
Russian dithering has done it no favors.