That’s thinking outside of the box! (but stranger things have happened…) The whole idea of sanctions against Russia is a joke - we know they’re selling oil to the EU through India. 🤷♂️
Thanks, and indeed, a lot of things aren't what they seem to be and that's the key in my opinion to clinching a grand compromise (per my understanding of each relevant party's interests).
Why would Russia support the EU by supplying them with cheap oil and gas? That's like giving your enemy the resources they need to defeat you. It would be far more beneficial to Russia to starve the EU of cheap energy resources and force them to keep paying higher prices, leading to higher inflation and the ensuing crippling of their industries, lower GDP and civil unrest. Meanwhile, Russia keeps expanding its industries and GDP with low energy costs and profits from higher global energy costs that it can sell at a slight markdown to friendly allies who can then sell it at a markup to the West if they choose. lol. That's a win-win for Russia. Russia recoups its loss from Nordstream by forcing higher oil and gas prices while making its industries much more competitive globally. The West will never be friendly to Russia. So Russia needs to break out of the G20 and UN instead of being its lapdog, constantly undermined, and forge ahead eastward and establish increasing ties and business through BRICS and other groups. It has been proven again and again that the West does not abide by contracts or agreements. Its only intention is to weaken and take over Russia's natural wealth by all means possible, just as it tried in Ukraine. But it seems that Russia tends to cave into Western demands incapable of asserting itself vulnerable to further abuse likely facilitated by treasonous Russian oligarchs driven by profit through its ties with the West. It's time for Russia to make a bold stand, assert itself and stop being sycophant to the West like it has been since 1945. Time to grow up, Russia. Now would be an opportune time.
You left out the reality part, where Russia says -- get outta here. we should sell Germany our gas through a pipeline we built that was destroyed by the US and its agents so that one day again the US can "punish" us for something by blowing it up again? The very act of publicizing this big of flim-flammery suggests that the US lacks options. I think this is not just a "long-shot," it isn't going to happen short of a settlement of this war to Russia's satisfaction. And I think hell will freeze over before Russia again allows the US to control its economic fortunes.
Of equally low probability: the Americans accept responsibility for what they've done and undertake to make reparations, e.g. for stopping the pipeline by terrorist act, reimbursing consequently lost revenue, compensating ecological damage (How?)... They'd need a whole new COP-type conference deal to even start scratching the surface of how to sort this out, and I don't think Trump is too enamoured of COP-like conferences. You think the Russians will be happy to be bought out on the cheap by the Americans at auction, while the Americans continue to deny their involvement? Possible, perhaps; but how probable?
As probable as it was that the Salisbury poisonings (2018) were the result of the Russians using chemical weapons there, as it was likely sycophantic then-Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson employed Porton Down to do the job, with a view to ingratiating Britain to the US to enjoy a special relationship forever and ever? Just how likely, in view of events as they've unfolded since?
This pipeline should be owned by only European countries, Russia included. If there was USA interests or even Japanese interests in the pipeline, even in private corporate form, Russia should not pump gas. Russia has been selling her gas just fine. Leave the gas in the ground is just fine. Russia strategic materials have been flowing into USA through third parties. As long as Russia gets her due profit, I don't think Russia would care how much the middlemen do a markup.
That’s thinking outside of the box! (but stranger things have happened…) The whole idea of sanctions against Russia is a joke - we know they’re selling oil to the EU through India. 🤷♂️
Thanks, and indeed, a lot of things aren't what they seem to be and that's the key in my opinion to clinching a grand compromise (per my understanding of each relevant party's interests).
They were involved in the damage, so why not .
Why would Russia support the EU by supplying them with cheap oil and gas? That's like giving your enemy the resources they need to defeat you. It would be far more beneficial to Russia to starve the EU of cheap energy resources and force them to keep paying higher prices, leading to higher inflation and the ensuing crippling of their industries, lower GDP and civil unrest. Meanwhile, Russia keeps expanding its industries and GDP with low energy costs and profits from higher global energy costs that it can sell at a slight markdown to friendly allies who can then sell it at a markup to the West if they choose. lol. That's a win-win for Russia. Russia recoups its loss from Nordstream by forcing higher oil and gas prices while making its industries much more competitive globally. The West will never be friendly to Russia. So Russia needs to break out of the G20 and UN instead of being its lapdog, constantly undermined, and forge ahead eastward and establish increasing ties and business through BRICS and other groups. It has been proven again and again that the West does not abide by contracts or agreements. Its only intention is to weaken and take over Russia's natural wealth by all means possible, just as it tried in Ukraine. But it seems that Russia tends to cave into Western demands incapable of asserting itself vulnerable to further abuse likely facilitated by treasonous Russian oligarchs driven by profit through its ties with the West. It's time for Russia to make a bold stand, assert itself and stop being sycophant to the West like it has been since 1945. Time to grow up, Russia. Now would be an opportune time.
You left out the reality part, where Russia says -- get outta here. we should sell Germany our gas through a pipeline we built that was destroyed by the US and its agents so that one day again the US can "punish" us for something by blowing it up again? The very act of publicizing this big of flim-flammery suggests that the US lacks options. I think this is not just a "long-shot," it isn't going to happen short of a settlement of this war to Russia's satisfaction. And I think hell will freeze over before Russia again allows the US to control its economic fortunes.
"...a low-probability but high-impact scenario."
Of equally low probability: the Americans accept responsibility for what they've done and undertake to make reparations, e.g. for stopping the pipeline by terrorist act, reimbursing consequently lost revenue, compensating ecological damage (How?)... They'd need a whole new COP-type conference deal to even start scratching the surface of how to sort this out, and I don't think Trump is too enamoured of COP-like conferences. You think the Russians will be happy to be bought out on the cheap by the Americans at auction, while the Americans continue to deny their involvement? Possible, perhaps; but how probable?
As probable as it was that the Salisbury poisonings (2018) were the result of the Russians using chemical weapons there, as it was likely sycophantic then-Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson employed Porton Down to do the job, with a view to ingratiating Britain to the US to enjoy a special relationship forever and ever? Just how likely, in view of events as they've unfolded since?
This pipeline should be owned by only European countries, Russia included. If there was USA interests or even Japanese interests in the pipeline, even in private corporate form, Russia should not pump gas. Russia has been selling her gas just fine. Leave the gas in the ground is just fine. Russia strategic materials have been flowing into USA through third parties. As long as Russia gets her due profit, I don't think Russia would care how much the middlemen do a markup.
Gtfo
Americans controlling Nord Strram?
It is an American slang phrase, "Get The F*** Out." In other words, that seems impossible but also too good to be true.