Ukraine in the E.U. would be a continuation of this post coup U.S. project. The U.S., in spite of appearances to the contrary. Is still very much anti-Russian.just as its ant-Chinese and anti-BRICS.
Trump is out to change his public persoma from a man of war to a man of peace.
None of that is true. Trump is very much a man of wat. He's not interested in a unified Europe.
Okay, those are your views, but FYI Putin said in mid-2022 that he has no problem with Ukraine joining the EU, and this position was recently reaffirmed by Peskov, so Russia sees the issue very differently and formulates policy accordingly:
Yes, I also recall Putin’s position on Ukraine’s EU membership very clearly. Allowing Ukraine to step on the road toward relative prosperity would be a wise move toward pacifying that state. In order to get there they have to bridge the security issue. A day or two ago Zelensky presented his demands for security guarantees in a similar manner to Russia’s prior demands. On the other hand Russia is forced to keep the war going to exclude warmongers like the UK/EU gang from entering Ukraine. I clearly see a tension between the Zelensky positions and Ukraine’s abilities on the battlefield. If Europe will be unable to fully support Ukraine’s war efforts something will have to give…
Trump’s motivation for peace is the simple understanding of the risks of a nuclear war. He is an oligarch and as such not very interested to move into a dark hole and struggle for his food supply and the life of his family with a few hundred thousand survivors demanding to share. It shows the deep detachment from reality of Western rulers before Trump that they went down on this road. Only psychopaths will design a military strategy where the likely logical conclusion is either a loss in a major war or a nuclear conflict. Psycho-Biden kept talking about bleeding Russia, he knew perfectly well that that Russia cannot submit in this conflict.
Orban’s buffer zone solution will be the most likely future if Ukraine manages to climb out of the grave that Zelensky and Biden dug for them. After this war there will be unconditional hate between these two nations for the rest of the century. Russia will do absolutely everything; even go to war again to keep foreign militaries out of Ukraine. They cannot tolerate an Ukraine that is armed to the teeth and plays around with secret biolabs and gain of function research. If Ukraine keeps up the forever war under Zelensky the Russians will fight until they take over Central Ukraine, Odessa, encircle Kiev and live the Western segment to be supervised by Germany and Poland. Once they achieve this they will be able to stop the flow of arms from the West and that will be the end of present days Ukraine.
"Not very interested to move into a dark hole and struggle for his food supply and the life of his family with a few hundred thousand survivors demanding to share."
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A top shelf "bespoke" survival bunker really does not look that bad?
Ukraine as a neutral buffer state led by moderates would indeed be the ideal solution, a casual observer like me would say. Only, what will happen when the likes of Victoria Nuland retake power in Washington, and the Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev? Who can prevent such a (realistic) scenario?
Andrew, how would the Trump 2.0 incentivise Russia to have less military and resource cooperation with China, bearing in mind that Putin is already wise to it?
Also Trump is already incentivised to stop paying for the war and to detente with Putin. He doesn't need the prize of minerals as well to do this, why is Ukraine signing them away?
It's very simple, they can either impose onerous costs for doing business with China and/or offer better prices for resources and better partnership terms.
As for military cooperation, China is suspected of reverse-engineering some Russian equipment and then selling knock-offs abroad which chip into Russia's market share.
There were also three high-profile Chinese-related espionage cases in Russia in recent years that were mostly swept under the rug but also left an impression among some here:
Additionally, I think that a lot of people exaggerate the extent of Russian-Chinese military-technical cooperation, it's mostly just arms sales and some symbolic drills, not much else.
Other than scope, which is of course much larger than with most of Russia's partners, these ties aren't really all that exceptional like some people think.
As for Ukraine's minerals deal with the US, Kiev sees it as a way of deterring Russia by giving the US tangible interests to defend if another conflict breaks out.
Ukraine in the E.U. would be a continuation of this post coup U.S. project. The U.S., in spite of appearances to the contrary. Is still very much anti-Russian.just as its ant-Chinese and anti-BRICS.
Trump is out to change his public persoma from a man of war to a man of peace.
None of that is true. Trump is very much a man of wat. He's not interested in a unified Europe.
Okay, those are your views, but FYI Putin said in mid-2022 that he has no problem with Ukraine joining the EU, and this position was recently reaffirmed by Peskov, so Russia sees the issue very differently and formulates policy accordingly:
https://tass.com/politics/1467687
https://www.politico.eu/article/dmitrt-peskov-kremlin-ukraine-sovereign-right-join-eu-not-nato/
Yes, I also recall Putin’s position on Ukraine’s EU membership very clearly. Allowing Ukraine to step on the road toward relative prosperity would be a wise move toward pacifying that state. In order to get there they have to bridge the security issue. A day or two ago Zelensky presented his demands for security guarantees in a similar manner to Russia’s prior demands. On the other hand Russia is forced to keep the war going to exclude warmongers like the UK/EU gang from entering Ukraine. I clearly see a tension between the Zelensky positions and Ukraine’s abilities on the battlefield. If Europe will be unable to fully support Ukraine’s war efforts something will have to give…
Trump’s motivation for peace is the simple understanding of the risks of a nuclear war. He is an oligarch and as such not very interested to move into a dark hole and struggle for his food supply and the life of his family with a few hundred thousand survivors demanding to share. It shows the deep detachment from reality of Western rulers before Trump that they went down on this road. Only psychopaths will design a military strategy where the likely logical conclusion is either a loss in a major war or a nuclear conflict. Psycho-Biden kept talking about bleeding Russia, he knew perfectly well that that Russia cannot submit in this conflict.
Orban’s buffer zone solution will be the most likely future if Ukraine manages to climb out of the grave that Zelensky and Biden dug for them. After this war there will be unconditional hate between these two nations for the rest of the century. Russia will do absolutely everything; even go to war again to keep foreign militaries out of Ukraine. They cannot tolerate an Ukraine that is armed to the teeth and plays around with secret biolabs and gain of function research. If Ukraine keeps up the forever war under Zelensky the Russians will fight until they take over Central Ukraine, Odessa, encircle Kiev and live the Western segment to be supervised by Germany and Poland. Once they achieve this they will be able to stop the flow of arms from the West and that will be the end of present days Ukraine.
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"Not very interested to move into a dark hole and struggle for his food supply and the life of his family with a few hundred thousand survivors demanding to share."
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A top shelf "bespoke" survival bunker really does not look that bad?
https://youtu.be/tPZ7wjiM5yw?si=xBq931BFOMOSjRek
Ukraine as a neutral buffer state led by moderates would indeed be the ideal solution, a casual observer like me would say. Only, what will happen when the likes of Victoria Nuland retake power in Washington, and the Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev? Who can prevent such a (realistic) scenario?
Andrew, how would the Trump 2.0 incentivise Russia to have less military and resource cooperation with China, bearing in mind that Putin is already wise to it?
Also Trump is already incentivised to stop paying for the war and to detente with Putin. He doesn't need the prize of minerals as well to do this, why is Ukraine signing them away?
It's very simple, they can either impose onerous costs for doing business with China and/or offer better prices for resources and better partnership terms.
As for military cooperation, China is suspected of reverse-engineering some Russian equipment and then selling knock-offs abroad which chip into Russia's market share.
There were also three high-profile Chinese-related espionage cases in Russia in recent years that were mostly swept under the rug but also left an impression among some here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230529144916/https://themilsource.com/2023/05/25/russian-scientists-are-accused-of-giving-secrets-away-to-china/
Additionally, I think that a lot of people exaggerate the extent of Russian-Chinese military-technical cooperation, it's mostly just arms sales and some symbolic drills, not much else.
Other than scope, which is of course much larger than with most of Russia's partners, these ties aren't really all that exceptional like some people think.
As for Ukraine's minerals deal with the US, Kiev sees it as a way of deterring Russia by giving the US tangible interests to defend if another conflict breaks out.
Oh I see. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Let's wait until something concrete materializes, before making such plans.