Zelensky was triggered after realizing that the Trump Administration wants to coerce him into peace with Putin and won’t be manipulated into prolonging, let alone escalating, the conflict after signing their rare earth minerals deal like he somehow expected that they would.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
They should've patted down all 15 of them before letting them enter their trucks. Personally, I would've unleashed the secret service to grab him by the scruff of his neck and kick him to the curb.
Zelensky was berating putin calling him a killer unreliable and other things.
he blamed the failed ceasefire in 2019 on putin and tried to exonerate or ignore the urkaine military actions of that time. i doubt trump or vance are aware of that history; however they got tired of his mannerisms and behaviour.
zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand.
his position was unrecoverable.
it was a tragedy bvut typical of trump and americans poor attitude and application of diplomacy.
trump-vance 1 zelenksy 0
zelensky gets kicked out of the white-house so we are informed
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand."
Not sure if we watched the same show, the shyteshow started with Insignificant Z trying to lecture JayDee in the Oval Office and that could not be taken by a former superpower easy at all. But the problem begun when he continued the more of the same and did not want to stop until he made both the Orange Blob and JayDee pissed off.
.
Let's be honest, Insignificant Z is not a politician, is a poor actor and utterly inapt at diplomacy or decorum. The dress code is another tell tale.
He was tolerated when he was made the shiny star in the agenda against Russia, which he easily confused as his own political success. An actor who went a but too much in-depth with the character he plays. He thought he can argue US politicians in US top Office in front of all the media and no superpower will allow that. In fact, at times it looked to me as Orange Blob was going to bitchslap Insignificant Z across his face and tell him to stop. He should've stopped the first time JayDee raised his voice.
I pitty Ukrainians for they were used by the US for this proxy war and their elite dived in head first into what is known to be a shallow water. Million dead for what could've ended with only lives lost during civil war phase 2014-2022 if Minsk was honoured. Bosnian scenario repeated (they also had Izetbegovic reject signed peace deal in the 11th hour leading to great loss of life and same outcome as in the peace deal).
I think, from watching and listening to Trump's change of tone from the 20th January until now, that somebody has brought him up to speed on the whole history.
Certainly has improved some what, no longer quoting the propaganda about massive russian casualties as opposed to Ukrainian losses, also now stating the LOC realties not the NATO stalemate b/s.
There's a good chance that Col. Douglas MacGregor a history buff and military advisor to Trump during his first Term in office, gained the ear of the President.
How could he possibly have been blind-sided after Macron and Starmer walked away with nothing. Ridiculous argument unless you're arguing zelensky is just stupid, which is an argument I could accept I guess.
Part of it may be lost in translation. A suit (business suit) and a costume may have similar definitions, but the connotation is VERY different. A costume is a non-serious thing an actor wears in a performance. Calling a suit a costume implied that the suits everyone else was wearing were frivolous and disingenuous. A suit is social armor in America, and he walked into that office unarmored and started a fight.
This statement: "then Russia will pretty much be given free rein by Washington to do whatever it wants with Ukraine". Russia already has free reign to do whatever it wants with regards to Ukraine. It's been that way since the beginning of the SMO. This fallout between Zelensky and Trump/Vance has got nothing to do with Russia, it's an embarrassing outing between two co-conspirators. Russia will carry on as usual.
As Rubio explained the context was Zelensky messing them around every day for ten days on this issue. Zelensky knew what he was being asked to sign and should not have come to DC if he wasn’t ready to sign it. Instead he came to browbeat and insult Trump, Vance and the US live on TV in front of the world. He called Vance a bitch/whore in Russian. Vance should have punched him out.
Oleg Tsaryov posted on Telegram that Zelenskyy had - just prior to the meeting - asked for individual security guarantees for members of his team, and was rebuffed.
The EU leaders tweeted unequivocal support for Zelenskyy right after the meeting. At least three were identical in wording.
A London summit meeting was announced (and Baltic states snubbed).
I imagine it was unlikely Zelenskyy refused to sign the mineral rights deal unless he had cleared that refusal in advance with Maron, Starmer and Von der Leyan. Likely Merz as well. If those leaders believed it had any chance of providing them with even a scintilla of leverage, they have a mistaken belief that they continue to control the globalist propaganda narrative via western mainstream media. It has been disrupted and power has shifted considerably. This was a tactical error, and any novice negotiator would understand that each day the leverage shifts to Russia's advantage.
That the world is beginning to see the real Vladimir Zelenskyy can only be a good thing.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
But it's funny to see that no one refers to this simple FACT!
This provides a GREAT TEACHING LESSON to the herds of modern moron slaves around the so called "western democracies" that still "think" that their votes matter:
The disrespect was actually directed at Trump even though it was spoken to Vance. Zelensky was calling Trump a naive fool for thinking any deal with Putin was worth making. Insulting Trump in his core competency of “art of the deal”. Vance jumped in to defend the Boss with lightning speed. This was actually Zelensky doubling down on remarks he made earlier in the meeting that Trump flatly contradicted Zelensky on (about breaking ceasefires).
One thing is for sure. February the 28th, 2025 will be long remembered, written about and analyzed by many-many parties in this century. Truly a memorable day, a historical turning point. When I learned that Zelenskyy was stopping in Ireland, meaning that he likely was not carried on a military plane as usual from Ramstein to D.C., I knew that business will not be like usual.
I've read two Russian-language telegram pieces today, arguing, albeit in slightly different ways, that this was all theater with everyone (including the anti-Trump segment of European establishment) coming out with exactly the kind of PR they wanted.
One was Ukrainian political analyst Kost' Bondarenko, the other someone named Nikita Tretyakov (Russian).
Do you think there may be any truth to it? After all, both Trump and Zelensky are professional showmen, and we live in (some say) a post-modern world...
You've got to learn how to read people. Trump was genuinely angry. Zelensky has been feted and adored everywhere for years and capitulated to a temper tantrum which his lack of emotional maturity and drug usage produced.
Telegram posts incorporate everyone in the world, and generally, the last people to understand an administration like Trump's, which is deviating so radically from decades of Neocon U.S. administrations (including Trump's first), will be people like Ukrainians and Russians. Both parties are now firmly entrenched in paranoia. War produces no less. Look at Israel. They possess the exact same mental condition. When any government sends people to die, they change.
Look, nobody is saying that it was literally scripted, rehearsed, and then performed. And I wouldn't diagnose tens of millions of people as "entrenched in paranoia", based on their nationality. Even in wartime.
Anyhow, I don't think there's any doubt whatsoever that everything politicians do in front of a group of journos is PERFORMANCE.
Yes, it's possible that it was a performance that didn't go as planed. But it's also possible that it went on more or less as expected by all participants.
For example: it's in the news now (if unconfirmed) that Zelya had a meeting with his globalist puppet-masters (Blinken, Nuland, Vindman) before meeting Trump and Vance. I can easily believe that his, Zelya's, act (including predicted Trump's reaction) could be planned there. And Mr. Trump could be aware of that meeting, prepared, and acting accordingly. Why not?
The shyteshow came after exchange/lecture of JayDee and that spiralled obviously out of control that theatrics are near impossible to me. There were 40min of usual fawning and patting on shoulders preceding the last 10 minutes of the sshyteshow.
It all looked as real anger spewing like volcano from the Orange Blob. Not like his usual antics.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
Don't we all witness the risk of voting an incompetent guy into the highest office of the land? But of course Ukraine's problems are much more than just Z alone. It would make an excellent case study once the dusts are settled.
February 28, 2025 Video: A Jewish-Russian Proxy President: Zelensky Transformed into a Neo-Nazi
Absolutely stunning, An Astute Intelligence Op. A++. The election of Zelensky in 2019 was intent upon acquiring the ethnic Russian vote in Donbass. A Russian Jew transformed into a Nazi?
Zelensky, the comedian, has just written the first lines of his tragedy. In the plotline of Greek tragedies overweening arrogance leads to a disconnection with reality that leads in turn to fatal decisions that destroy the protagonist.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
They should've patted down all 15 of them before letting them enter their trucks. Personally, I would've unleashed the secret service to grab him by the scruff of his neck and kick him to the curb.
i disagree.
i watched the interview /meeting.
Zelensky was berating putin calling him a killer unreliable and other things.
he blamed the failed ceasefire in 2019 on putin and tried to exonerate or ignore the urkaine military actions of that time. i doubt trump or vance are aware of that history; however they got tired of his mannerisms and behaviour.
zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand.
his position was unrecoverable.
it was a tragedy bvut typical of trump and americans poor attitude and application of diplomacy.
trump-vance 1 zelenksy 0
zelensky gets kicked out of the white-house so we are informed
trump-vance 2 zelensly -1
possible zlenelsy impeachment
trump-vance 3 zelensky -2 putin 1
writing is on the wall.
"zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand."
Not sure if we watched the same show, the shyteshow started with Insignificant Z trying to lecture JayDee in the Oval Office and that could not be taken by a former superpower easy at all. But the problem begun when he continued the more of the same and did not want to stop until he made both the Orange Blob and JayDee pissed off.
.
Let's be honest, Insignificant Z is not a politician, is a poor actor and utterly inapt at diplomacy or decorum. The dress code is another tell tale.
He was tolerated when he was made the shiny star in the agenda against Russia, which he easily confused as his own political success. An actor who went a but too much in-depth with the character he plays. He thought he can argue US politicians in US top Office in front of all the media and no superpower will allow that. In fact, at times it looked to me as Orange Blob was going to bitchslap Insignificant Z across his face and tell him to stop. He should've stopped the first time JayDee raised his voice.
I pitty Ukrainians for they were used by the US for this proxy war and their elite dived in head first into what is known to be a shallow water. Million dead for what could've ended with only lives lost during civil war phase 2014-2022 if Minsk was honoured. Bosnian scenario repeated (they also had Izetbegovic reject signed peace deal in the 11th hour leading to great loss of life and same outcome as in the peace deal).
Exonerate the Ukraine how???
When it is the Ukrainians who attacked and killed the Ethnic Russians in the Donbass!
Putin was Never to blame for anything.
Furthermore, why had Zelensky failed to implement the Minsk agreements???
I wrote:
" I doubt trump or vance are aware of that history"
i did not justify zelensky's omission of history.
I doubt donald is a history buff.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/zelensky-trump-vance-ukraine-war-b2706901.html
I think, from watching and listening to Trump's change of tone from the 20th January until now, that somebody has brought him up to speed on the whole history.
Certainly has improved some what, no longer quoting the propaganda about massive russian casualties as opposed to Ukrainian losses, also now stating the LOC realties not the NATO stalemate b/s.
There's a good chance that Col. Douglas MacGregor a history buff and military advisor to Trump during his first Term in office, gained the ear of the President.
How could he possibly have been blind-sided after Macron and Starmer walked away with nothing. Ridiculous argument unless you're arguing zelensky is just stupid, which is an argument I could accept I guess.
Part of it may be lost in translation. A suit (business suit) and a costume may have similar definitions, but the connotation is VERY different. A costume is a non-serious thing an actor wears in a performance. Calling a suit a costume implied that the suits everyone else was wearing were frivolous and disingenuous. A suit is social armor in America, and he walked into that office unarmored and started a fight.
I wasn’t calling attention to is because of your comment, but because Z used the same word, which indicated that it is a common social landmine.
This statement: "then Russia will pretty much be given free rein by Washington to do whatever it wants with Ukraine". Russia already has free reign to do whatever it wants with regards to Ukraine. It's been that way since the beginning of the SMO. This fallout between Zelensky and Trump/Vance has got nothing to do with Russia, it's an embarrassing outing between two co-conspirators. Russia will carry on as usual.
As Rubio explained the context was Zelensky messing them around every day for ten days on this issue. Zelensky knew what he was being asked to sign and should not have come to DC if he wasn’t ready to sign it. Instead he came to browbeat and insult Trump, Vance and the US live on TV in front of the world. He called Vance a bitch/whore in Russian. Vance should have punched him out.
Vance punched Zelensky's lights out verbally.
The most apt meme of the moment is that Monica Lewinskyy finally lost the title of the person that was most flucked in the Oval Office
At least the resolute desk didn't take a beating this time around.
Oleg Tsaryov posted on Telegram that Zelenskyy had - just prior to the meeting - asked for individual security guarantees for members of his team, and was rebuffed.
The EU leaders tweeted unequivocal support for Zelenskyy right after the meeting. At least three were identical in wording.
A London summit meeting was announced (and Baltic states snubbed).
I imagine it was unlikely Zelenskyy refused to sign the mineral rights deal unless he had cleared that refusal in advance with Maron, Starmer and Von der Leyan. Likely Merz as well. If those leaders believed it had any chance of providing them with even a scintilla of leverage, they have a mistaken belief that they continue to control the globalist propaganda narrative via western mainstream media. It has been disrupted and power has shifted considerably. This was a tactical error, and any novice negotiator would understand that each day the leverage shifts to Russia's advantage.
That the world is beginning to see the real Vladimir Zelenskyy can only be a good thing.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
OSCE data proves that Zelensky is a liar...
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-4bc
But it's funny to see that no one refers to this simple FACT!
This provides a GREAT TEACHING LESSON to the herds of modern moron slaves around the so called "western democracies" that still "think" that their votes matter:
NEVER VOTE FOR A CLOWN
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-4bc
The disrespect was actually directed at Trump even though it was spoken to Vance. Zelensky was calling Trump a naive fool for thinking any deal with Putin was worth making. Insulting Trump in his core competency of “art of the deal”. Vance jumped in to defend the Boss with lightning speed. This was actually Zelensky doubling down on remarks he made earlier in the meeting that Trump flatly contradicted Zelensky on (about breaking ceasefires).
One thing is for sure. February the 28th, 2025 will be long remembered, written about and analyzed by many-many parties in this century. Truly a memorable day, a historical turning point. When I learned that Zelenskyy was stopping in Ireland, meaning that he likely was not carried on a military plane as usual from Ramstein to D.C., I knew that business will not be like usual.
Trump got the show for all the money paid by spectators. The woke left ards are not just melting but turning into steam instantly.
Let's hope Baltic rabid dogs learn that one thing worse than being US enemy is being US' pet lap dog.
B rabid dogs are payed for being rabid dogs.
Russia, Russia, Russia is everything they need to say ;-)
I've read two Russian-language telegram pieces today, arguing, albeit in slightly different ways, that this was all theater with everyone (including the anti-Trump segment of European establishment) coming out with exactly the kind of PR they wanted.
One was Ukrainian political analyst Kost' Bondarenko, the other someone named Nikita Tretyakov (Russian).
Do you think there may be any truth to it? After all, both Trump and Zelensky are professional showmen, and we live in (some say) a post-modern world...
You've got to learn how to read people. Trump was genuinely angry. Zelensky has been feted and adored everywhere for years and capitulated to a temper tantrum which his lack of emotional maturity and drug usage produced.
Telegram posts incorporate everyone in the world, and generally, the last people to understand an administration like Trump's, which is deviating so radically from decades of Neocon U.S. administrations (including Trump's first), will be people like Ukrainians and Russians. Both parties are now firmly entrenched in paranoia. War produces no less. Look at Israel. They possess the exact same mental condition. When any government sends people to die, they change.
Look, nobody is saying that it was literally scripted, rehearsed, and then performed. And I wouldn't diagnose tens of millions of people as "entrenched in paranoia", based on their nationality. Even in wartime.
Anyhow, I don't think there's any doubt whatsoever that everything politicians do in front of a group of journos is PERFORMANCE.
Yes, it's possible that it was a performance that didn't go as planed. But it's also possible that it went on more or less as expected by all participants.
For example: it's in the news now (if unconfirmed) that Zelya had a meeting with his globalist puppet-masters (Blinken, Nuland, Vindman) before meeting Trump and Vance. I can easily believe that his, Zelya's, act (including predicted Trump's reaction) could be planned there. And Mr. Trump could be aware of that meeting, prepared, and acting accordingly. Why not?
"...and Zelensky are professional showmen"
The shyteshow came after exchange/lecture of JayDee and that spiralled obviously out of control that theatrics are near impossible to me. There were 40min of usual fawning and patting on shoulders preceding the last 10 minutes of the sshyteshow.
It all looked as real anger spewing like volcano from the Orange Blob. Not like his usual antics.
I had the same feeling after my first view of the videos. I felt I was looking at a theatrical event. I will check again, very-very carefully.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
Don't we all witness the risk of voting an incompetent guy into the highest office of the land? But of course Ukraine's problems are much more than just Z alone. It would make an excellent case study once the dusts are settled.
I would expect nothing less.
February 28, 2025 Video: A Jewish-Russian Proxy President: Zelensky Transformed into a Neo-Nazi
Absolutely stunning, An Astute Intelligence Op. A++. The election of Zelensky in 2019 was intent upon acquiring the ethnic Russian vote in Donbass. A Russian Jew transformed into a Nazi?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-zelenskys-pro-russian-speech-before-being-co-opted/5819279
Zelensky, the comedian, has just written the first lines of his tragedy. In the plotline of Greek tragedies overweening arrogance leads to a disconnection with reality that leads in turn to fatal decisions that destroy the protagonist.