Zelensky was triggered after realizing that the Trump Administration wants to coerce him into peace with Putin and won’t be manipulated into prolonging, let alone escalating, the conflict after signing their rare earth minerals deal like he somehow expected that they would.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
Zelensky was berating putin calling him a killer unreliable and other things.
he blamed the failed ceasefire in 2019 on putin and tried to exonerate or ignore the urkaine military actions of that time. i doubt trump or vance are aware of that history; however they got tired of his mannerisms and behaviour.
zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand.
his position was unrecoverable.
it was a tragedy bvut typical of trump and americans poor attitude and application of diplomacy.
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zelensky gets kicked out of the white-house so we are informed
There's a good chance that Col. Douglas MacGregor a history buff and military advisor to Trump during his first Term in office, gained the ear of the President.
I think, from watching and listening to Trump's change of tone from the 20th January until now, that somebody has brought him up to speed on the whole history.
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand."
Not sure if we watched the same show, the shyteshow started with Insignificant Z trying to lecture JayDee in the Oval Office and that could not be taken by a former superpower easy at all. But the problem begun when he continued the more of the same and did not want to stop until he made both the Orange Blob and JayDee pissed off.
.
Let's be honest, Insignificant Z is not a politician, is a poor actor and utterly inapt at diplomacy or decorum. The dress code is another tell tale.
He was tolerated when he was made the shiny star in the agenda against Russia, which he easily confused as his own political success. An actor who went a but too much in-depth with the character he plays. He thought he can argue US politicians in US top Office in front of all the media and no superpower will allow that. In fact, at times it looked to me as Orange Blob was going to bitchslap Insignificant Z across his face and tell him to stop. He should've stopped the first time JayDee raised his voice.
I pitty Ukrainians for they were used by the US for this proxy war and their elite dived in head first into what is known to be a shallow water. Million dead for what could've ended with only lives lost during civil war phase 2014-2022 if Minsk was honoured. Bosnian scenario repeated (they also had Izetbegovic reject signed peace deal in the 11th hour leading to great loss of life and same outcome as in the peace deal).
As Rubio explained the context was Zelensky messing them around every day for ten days on this issue. Zelensky knew what he was being asked to sign and should not have come to DC if he wasn’t ready to sign it. Instead he came to browbeat and insult Trump, Vance and the US live on TV in front of the world. He called Vance a bitch/whore in Russian. Vance should have punched him out.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
The disrespect was actually directed at Trump even though it was spoken to Vance. Zelensky was calling Trump a naive fool for thinking any deal with Putin was worth making. Insulting Trump in his core competency of “art of the deal”. Vance jumped in to defend the Boss with lightning speed. This was actually Zelensky doubling down on remarks he made earlier in the meeting that Trump flatly contradicted Zelensky on (about breaking ceasefires).
One thing is for sure. February the 28th, 2025 will be long remembered, written about and analyzed by many-many parties in this century. Truly a memorable day, a historical turning point. When I learned that Zelenskyy was stopping in Ireland, meaning that he likely was not carried on a military plane as usual from Ramstein to D.C., I knew that business will not be like usual.
I've read two Russian-language telegram pieces today, arguing, albeit in slightly different ways, that this was all theater with everyone (including the anti-Trump segment of European establishment) coming out with exactly the kind of PR they wanted.
One was Ukrainian political analyst Kost' Bondarenko, the other someone named Nikita Tretyakov (Russian).
Do you think there may be any truth to it? After all, both Trump and Zelensky are professional showmen, and we live in (some say) a post-modern world...
The shyteshow came after exchange/lecture of JayDee and that spiralled obviously out of control that theatrics are near impossible to me. There were 40min of usual fawning and patting on shoulders preceding the last 10 minutes of the sshyteshow.
It all looked as real anger spewing like volcano from the Orange Blob. Not like his usual antics.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
It doesn't matter who ambushed whom. Those who like Trump and/or support peace will insist Zelenskii was a prat.
Nothing Zelenskii can do will change fhe minds of those who seek war and/or dislike Trump. So far, pretty much all the news coverage is slanted this way.
Anyway, expect the CIA to give all sides a stern talking to. If that doesn't get results, expect "shocking new evidence of latest Russian atrocities" in 5..4..3..2..1.
Zelensky got ballsy as the EU offered 400 million to keep up the fight. This if the last play by Europe to hope WWIII breaks out as they are betting Putin doesn’t stop at the Ukrainian border believing he just wants to assemble the old Soviet Union. The deal was put into place 35 years ago as NATO wasn’t supposed to expand any further. They haven’t stuck to this deal and admitted Sweden and Finland this past year. Russia has allowed it but talk of Ukraine being admitted to NATO was a hill too far for Putin not to mention how the CIA has been fucking around in Ukraine for decades doing nothing but pissing Putin off daring him to act. Well, he did and the globalists are hoping that article 5 comes into play which would allow China to attack Taiwan as the US is split between two continents and the globalists attempt their takeover of the world. Trump sees all of this which is why he has tried so hard to broker the cease fire and peace for this war that is no longer popular in the US. The US has no choice now but to walk away and even if NATO land gets encroached on they need to hopefully not get sucked into that either. It’s time Europe stands on its own and the US shifts to the China threat. Europe has nothing to offer the US but censorship and fines of our tech companies. SCREW THE EU GLOBALIST BLOB and Europe too. Maybe we should have allowed Germany to take it all over during WWII. Ungrateful scumbags.
I personally think he realised he can't sell these minerals or what would be left for his country. His humiliation was unprecedented though and very unfortunate for his country.
Was he high on his supply?? Imagine leaving I such ignominy that the workers actually ate the lunch for his team.
This statement: "then Russia will pretty much be given free rein by Washington to do whatever it wants with Ukraine". Russia already has free reign to do whatever it wants with regards to Ukraine. It's been that way since the beginning of the SMO. This fallout between Zelensky and Trump/Vance has got nothing to do with Russia, it's an embarrassing outing between two co-conspirators. Russia will carry on as usual.
Excellent one, Andrew. I find it hard to believe Trump and Vance set a trap for Zelinsky. They were expecting a great breakthrough with the signing of that rare earth minerals agreement, and a big step to making peace with Russia.
The brouhaha actually started when Trump greeted Z and admonished him for appearing in his disgraceful attire. I think it went downhill from there. Trump was already ticked off.
I made for some unforgettable TV that showed the raw emotions, anger, and real face of Donald Trump, "You're Fired!" I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.
As far as Z's future goes, after Trump calling him a dictator with low approval ratings, and telling him to go to France immediately, Z is all but in the coffin.
Apparently, Zelensky is as afraid of peace as the devil of holy water, because it would mean the end of his presidency. He is in the same boat as Netanyahu. The lives of hundred of thousands of human beings depend on these two. It's a nightmare.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
i disagree.
i watched the interview /meeting.
Zelensky was berating putin calling him a killer unreliable and other things.
he blamed the failed ceasefire in 2019 on putin and tried to exonerate or ignore the urkaine military actions of that time. i doubt trump or vance are aware of that history; however they got tired of his mannerisms and behaviour.
zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand.
his position was unrecoverable.
it was a tragedy bvut typical of trump and americans poor attitude and application of diplomacy.
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zelensky gets kicked out of the white-house so we are informed
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possible zlenelsy impeachment
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writing is on the wall.
Exonerate the Ukraine how???
When it is the Ukrainians who attacked and killed the Ethnic Russians in the Donbass!
Putin was Never to blame for anything.
Furthermore, why had Zelensky failed to implement the Minsk agreements???
I wrote:
" I doubt trump or vance are aware of that history"
i did not justify zelensky's omission of history.
I doubt donald is a history buff.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/zelensky-trump-vance-ukraine-war-b2706901.html
There's a good chance that Col. Douglas MacGregor a history buff and military advisor to Trump during his first Term in office, gained the ear of the President.
I think, from watching and listening to Trump's change of tone from the 20th January until now, that somebody has brought him up to speed on the whole history.
"zelensky was not triggered ,
he was blind-sided and ambushed by trump and vance whom it appears were looking for an opportunity to grandstand."
Not sure if we watched the same show, the shyteshow started with Insignificant Z trying to lecture JayDee in the Oval Office and that could not be taken by a former superpower easy at all. But the problem begun when he continued the more of the same and did not want to stop until he made both the Orange Blob and JayDee pissed off.
.
Let's be honest, Insignificant Z is not a politician, is a poor actor and utterly inapt at diplomacy or decorum. The dress code is another tell tale.
He was tolerated when he was made the shiny star in the agenda against Russia, which he easily confused as his own political success. An actor who went a but too much in-depth with the character he plays. He thought he can argue US politicians in US top Office in front of all the media and no superpower will allow that. In fact, at times it looked to me as Orange Blob was going to bitchslap Insignificant Z across his face and tell him to stop. He should've stopped the first time JayDee raised his voice.
I pitty Ukrainians for they were used by the US for this proxy war and their elite dived in head first into what is known to be a shallow water. Million dead for what could've ended with only lives lost during civil war phase 2014-2022 if Minsk was honoured. Bosnian scenario repeated (they also had Izetbegovic reject signed peace deal in the 11th hour leading to great loss of life and same outcome as in the peace deal).
As Rubio explained the context was Zelensky messing them around every day for ten days on this issue. Zelensky knew what he was being asked to sign and should not have come to DC if he wasn’t ready to sign it. Instead he came to browbeat and insult Trump, Vance and the US live on TV in front of the world. He called Vance a bitch/whore in Russian. Vance should have punched him out.
Vance punched Zelensky's lights out verbally.
It was highly amusing to watch Zelensky being ushered out of the Oval Office, stage left, by a WhiteHouse official, to his awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him, on his way out, after being spanked in full public view by both Head Masters.
The most apt meme of the moment is that Monica Lewinskyy finally lost the title of the person that was most flucked in the Oval Office
At least the resolute desk didn't take a beating this time around.
The disrespect was actually directed at Trump even though it was spoken to Vance. Zelensky was calling Trump a naive fool for thinking any deal with Putin was worth making. Insulting Trump in his core competency of “art of the deal”. Vance jumped in to defend the Boss with lightning speed. This was actually Zelensky doubling down on remarks he made earlier in the meeting that Trump flatly contradicted Zelensky on (about breaking ceasefires).
One thing is for sure. February the 28th, 2025 will be long remembered, written about and analyzed by many-many parties in this century. Truly a memorable day, a historical turning point. When I learned that Zelenskyy was stopping in Ireland, meaning that he likely was not carried on a military plane as usual from Ramstein to D.C., I knew that business will not be like usual.
Trump got the show for all the money paid by spectators. The woke left ards are not just melting but turning into steam instantly.
Let's hope Baltic rabid dogs learn that one thing worse than being US enemy is being US' pet lap dog.
B rabid dogs are payed for being rabid dogs.
Russia, Russia, Russia is everything they need to say ;-)
I've read two Russian-language telegram pieces today, arguing, albeit in slightly different ways, that this was all theater with everyone (including the anti-Trump segment of European establishment) coming out with exactly the kind of PR they wanted.
One was Ukrainian political analyst Kost' Bondarenko, the other someone named Nikita Tretyakov (Russian).
Do you think there may be any truth to it? After all, both Trump and Zelensky are professional showmen, and we live in (some say) a post-modern world...
"...and Zelensky are professional showmen"
The shyteshow came after exchange/lecture of JayDee and that spiralled obviously out of control that theatrics are near impossible to me. There were 40min of usual fawning and patting on shoulders preceding the last 10 minutes of the sshyteshow.
It all looked as real anger spewing like volcano from the Orange Blob. Not like his usual antics.
I had the same feeling after my first view of the videos. I felt I was looking at a theatrical event. I will check again, very-very carefully.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.
It doesn't matter who ambushed whom. Those who like Trump and/or support peace will insist Zelenskii was a prat.
Nothing Zelenskii can do will change fhe minds of those who seek war and/or dislike Trump. So far, pretty much all the news coverage is slanted this way.
Anyway, expect the CIA to give all sides a stern talking to. If that doesn't get results, expect "shocking new evidence of latest Russian atrocities" in 5..4..3..2..1.
Zelensky got ballsy as the EU offered 400 million to keep up the fight. This if the last play by Europe to hope WWIII breaks out as they are betting Putin doesn’t stop at the Ukrainian border believing he just wants to assemble the old Soviet Union. The deal was put into place 35 years ago as NATO wasn’t supposed to expand any further. They haven’t stuck to this deal and admitted Sweden and Finland this past year. Russia has allowed it but talk of Ukraine being admitted to NATO was a hill too far for Putin not to mention how the CIA has been fucking around in Ukraine for decades doing nothing but pissing Putin off daring him to act. Well, he did and the globalists are hoping that article 5 comes into play which would allow China to attack Taiwan as the US is split between two continents and the globalists attempt their takeover of the world. Trump sees all of this which is why he has tried so hard to broker the cease fire and peace for this war that is no longer popular in the US. The US has no choice now but to walk away and even if NATO land gets encroached on they need to hopefully not get sucked into that either. It’s time Europe stands on its own and the US shifts to the China threat. Europe has nothing to offer the US but censorship and fines of our tech companies. SCREW THE EU GLOBALIST BLOB and Europe too. Maybe we should have allowed Germany to take it all over during WWII. Ungrateful scumbags.
Sounds like it was a strange time.
I personally think he realised he can't sell these minerals or what would be left for his country. His humiliation was unprecedented though and very unfortunate for his country.
Was he high on his supply?? Imagine leaving I such ignominy that the workers actually ate the lunch for his team.
What a shit-show!
Everyone (other than Trump) knows the mineral rights are basically worthless.
Doesn't matter, long as the funds and weapons get transferred.
This statement: "then Russia will pretty much be given free rein by Washington to do whatever it wants with Ukraine". Russia already has free reign to do whatever it wants with regards to Ukraine. It's been that way since the beginning of the SMO. This fallout between Zelensky and Trump/Vance has got nothing to do with Russia, it's an embarrassing outing between two co-conspirators. Russia will carry on as usual.
Excellent one, Andrew. I find it hard to believe Trump and Vance set a trap for Zelinsky. They were expecting a great breakthrough with the signing of that rare earth minerals agreement, and a big step to making peace with Russia.
The brouhaha actually started when Trump greeted Z and admonished him for appearing in his disgraceful attire. I think it went downhill from there. Trump was already ticked off.
I made for some unforgettable TV that showed the raw emotions, anger, and real face of Donald Trump, "You're Fired!" I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.
As far as Z's future goes, after Trump calling him a dictator with low approval ratings, and telling him to go to France immediately, Z is all but in the coffin.
Apparently, Zelensky is as afraid of peace as the devil of holy water, because it would mean the end of his presidency. He is in the same boat as Netanyahu. The lives of hundred of thousands of human beings depend on these two. It's a nightmare.
Why should Zelenskii care? The war has brought him nothing but benefits.
And the petulent child got spanked by both Head Masters in full public view, after which he exited stage left, ushered out by a WhiteHouse official to an awaiting vehicle, making sure Zelensky didn't take anything that didn't belong to him on the way out.